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We must meet very different plutocrats, that's all I can say.

by Eliezer 7y ago

qntty 7y ago
Explain?
- Eliezer 7y ago
  The plutocrats I have met tend to be alarmed about the decline of classical liberalism in universities; they don't sound like they think they could easily purchase agenda-setting power through simple donations.
  - syn0byte 7y ago
    Crocodile tears and false modesty? You don't keep your plutocratic station long if you run around telling everyone you hate cheap education because it gives the proles dreadful ideas like "fair wages" and "rights". Nor that you plan to spend a bunch of money to fix the problem of these educated uppity proles.
    - challenger22 7y ago
      This is mostly as a reply to Eliezer Yudkowsky- I've been in the rationalist community for quite a while, this is the first time I've noticed you here on HN. It is really funny to observe how much people want to argue against you when you condense your point down into a terse statement. Looking through your past comments, it is a very common pattern of behavior. syn0byte- the man you are replying to is fairly well-connected. I would take the words he said as a credible anecdote- he hangs out with plutocrats enough to know what he said.
      - Eliezer 7y ago
        Very, very particular plutocrats. I'm reasonably sure they're not representative... but still, they have money, and didn't seem to think it could be used to purchase university-agenda.
  - ForHackernews 7y ago
    Yeah, for some reason I feel like you're not a credible source on the opinions of plutocrats: https://amormundi.blogspot.com/2016/01/robot-cultist-eliezer-yudkowskys-ugly.html https://amormundi.blogspot.com/2016/01/robot-cultist-eliezer...
    - joey_bob 7y ago
      Is there a human-legible version of this post?
  - adamnemecek 7y ago
    Most of these universities have a public and a private agenda. Publicly, they are very left leaning, privately, they are hard-core pro-capitalism. Wall Street is full of these people.
    - ihm 7y ago
      Often the academics and students themselves are quite left but the administrators are pro-capitalist. See for example the University of Chicago’s union-busting of the grad student union (which is widely supported by faculty and students).
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We must meet very different plutocrats, that's all I can say.

qntty 7y ago

Explain?

Eliezer 7y ago
The plutocrats I have met tend to be alarmed about the decline of classical liberalism in universities; they don't sound like they think they could easily purchase agenda-setting power through simple donations.
- syn0byte 7y ago
  Crocodile tears and false modesty? You don't keep your plutocratic station long if you run around telling everyone you hate cheap education because it gives the proles dreadful ideas like "fair wages" and "rights". Nor that you plan to spend a bunch of money to fix the problem of these educated uppity proles.
  - challenger22 7y ago
    This is mostly as a reply to Eliezer Yudkowsky- I've been in the rationalist community for quite a while, this is the first time I've noticed you here on HN. It is really funny to observe how much people want to argue against you when you condense your point down into a terse statement. Looking through your past comments, it is a very common pattern of behavior. syn0byte- the man you are replying to is fairly well-connected. I would take the words he said as a credible anecdote- he hangs out with plutocrats enough to know what he said.
    - Eliezer 7y ago
      Very, very particular plutocrats. I'm reasonably sure they're not representative... but still, they have money, and didn't seem to think it could be used to purchase university-agenda.
- ForHackernews 7y ago
  Yeah, for some reason I feel like you're not a credible source on the opinions of plutocrats: https://amormundi.blogspot.com/2016/01/robot-cultist-eliezer-yudkowskys-ugly.html https://amormundi.blogspot.com/2016/01/robot-cultist-eliezer...
  - joey_bob 7y ago
    Is there a human-legible version of this post?
- adamnemecek 7y ago
  Most of these universities have a public and a private agenda. Publicly, they are very left leaning, privately, they are hard-core pro-capitalism. Wall Street is full of these people.
  - ihm 7y ago
    Often the academics and students themselves are quite left but the administrators are pro-capitalist. See for example the University of Chicago’s union-busting of the grad student union (which is widely supported by faculty and students).

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