The hilarious thing about the get-good arguments is that it's proponents don't realize that they're talking about expending effort _for nothing in return_, espe

The hilarious thing about the get-good arguments is that it's proponents don't realize that they're talking about expending effort _for nothing in return_, especially in cases like the server-side where nobody is forced to use Javascript. You can say the same thing to Pythonistas who are fussed by memory management, but the tradeoff of that intuitiveness is performance (which is being somewhat obviated by newer languages like Rust, which have their own challenges to learn). The actual task you're trying to do is more complex, so the knowledge required is too. In Javascript's case, the thing you're becoming an expert in is the path-dependent history of dumb language decisions by people who never should have been let anywhere near a language. It's beyond me that people don't understand why this would bug some, at the very least because it was so easily avoidable.