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I completely understand the need to ban books like Black Hat Python but they also ban First Html5 Programming and Microsoft Excel 2016 For Dummies? We do actua

by cols 7y ago

I completely understand the need to ban books like Black Hat Python but they also ban First Html5 Programming and Microsoft Excel 2016 For Dummies? We do actually want to rehabilitate these folks and teach them valuable life skills right? How is banning books on HTML and Excel helpful? As a tax-paying Oregonian, this is a little baffling.

stallmanite 7y ago
I’m going to go out on a limb and say that prison management gives zero fucks about rehabilitation. They’ve not been incentivized to do so for decades at least and therefore I’d suppose that those who would want to rehabilitate prisoners have self-selected out of the career entirely leaving only the more punitive-minded or those who just can’t find employment elsewhere. This is mainly speculation so I’d genuinely appreciate it if anyone with direct knowledge of the situation could correct me if I’m way off base here.
jandrese 7y ago
Rehabilitation is counterproductive for prison officials. Someone who is rehabilitated is much less likely to reoffend, and deprives your prison of an inmate. Releasing people with no life skills, no job prospects, and a black mark on their record is a much more reliable way to make sure you can maintain your population.
- cols 7y ago
  I don't want to agree with you because it seems really craven, but I'm not sure I can disagree. Speaking only for my state, Oregon doesn't seem to have any interest in actually combating recidivism.
- Keverw 7y ago
  Yeah, sadly private prisons are like that. You could even go buy stock in prisons too. So then I guess if you are a shareholder you'd wish for more crime as it'd be in your best interest for your prisons you invested in to be successful. Pretty sad to actually have to hope for crimes. Pretty interesting though they allow access to computers. Never heard of that. I always imagined reading dusty old law books if your prison has a library and writing things down by hand. However some lawbook's are very outdated, there's some old book often cited claiming you don't need a driver license to drive because you aren't in commerce... Yeah try that one with a cop and I doubt it will go very well for you. I like to watch Orange Is the New Black on Netflix and they pretty much did an entire season about private prisons. I've already knew a bit about them though but maybe talking about them in a comedy might get people thinking or doing their own research. So many messed up things going on in the world though, I doubt many people have enough time to even care or know what to even do to help make things better.
craftyguy 7y ago
> We do actually want to rehabilitate these folks and teach them valuable life skills right? No. We want to punish them. (I don't agree with this, but it's how the prison system is run in the US)

by cols 7y ago

stallmanite 7y ago

I’m going to go out on a limb and say that prison management gives zero fucks about rehabilitation. They’ve not been incentivized to do so for decades at least and therefore I’d suppose that those who would want to rehabilitate prisoners have self-selected out of the career entirely leaving only the more punitive-minded or those who just can’t find employment elsewhere. This is mainly speculation so I’d genuinely appreciate it if anyone with direct knowledge of the situation could correct me if I’m way off base here.

jandrese 7y ago

Rehabilitation is counterproductive for prison officials. Someone who is rehabilitated is much less likely to reoffend, and deprives your prison of an inmate. Releasing people with no life skills, no job prospects, and a black mark on their record is a much more reliable way to make sure you can maintain your population.

cols 7y ago
I don't want to agree with you because it seems really craven, but I'm not sure I can disagree. Speaking only for my state, Oregon doesn't seem to have any interest in actually combating recidivism.
Keverw 7y ago
Yeah, sadly private prisons are like that. You could even go buy stock in prisons too. So then I guess if you are a shareholder you'd wish for more crime as it'd be in your best interest for your prisons you invested in to be successful. Pretty sad to actually have to hope for crimes. Pretty interesting though they allow access to computers. Never heard of that. I always imagined reading dusty old law books if your prison has a library and writing things down by hand. However some lawbook's are very outdated, there's some old book often cited claiming you don't need a driver license to drive because you aren't in commerce... Yeah try that one with a cop and I doubt it will go very well for you. I like to watch Orange Is the New Black on Netflix and they pretty much did an entire season about private prisons. I've already knew a bit about them though but maybe talking about them in a comedy might get people thinking or doing their own research. So many messed up things going on in the world though, I doubt many people have enough time to even care or know what to even do to help make things better.

craftyguy 7y ago

> We do actually want to rehabilitate these folks and teach them valuable life skills right? No. We want to punish them. (I don't agree with this, but it's how the prison system is run in the US)