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> I suppose the eight years of Republican stonewalling the Obama administration on literally everything, from legislation to judges to executive branch appointe

> I suppose the eight years of Republican stonewalling the Obama administration on literally everything, from legislation to judges to executive branch appointees, to an unheard of degree - is just supposed to be forgotten? Well, it depends. Do you want to punish the other team, or get back to doing the country's work? Does America really have to take one for team while we go on another boneheaded "well, if we ignore governing and prioritize fucking over our opponents just this one time, it'll mean better governing in the long run" quest?

mcphage 7y ago
> Do you want to punish the other team, or get back to doing the country's work? Could you help me understand—is "running against the ACA for a decade and then having no workable plan for its replacement when you're finally in charge" an example of 'punishing the other team' or an example of 'doing the country's work'?
- microcolonel 7y ago
  > having no workable plan for its replacement when you're finally in charge Who exactly was "in charge" in 2017 and 2018? It seemed to me that there was not one united faction, nor any coalition, that on a number of popular issues could form a majority over that time period. It seems like it is the normal course of things for the lower and upper representative houses to represent what they will, and for that either to produce or preclude new policy.
  - mcphage 7y ago
    > Who exactly was "in charge" in 2017 and 2018? Probably the party that controlled both houses of Congress as well as the White House.
    - microcolonel 7y ago
      Do people not widely know that until recently a huge proportion of Republicans in both houses were never-Trumpers?
      - mcphage 7y ago
        That sure hasn’t stopped them from pushing his candidates through. Nor encouraged them to stand up to his political abuses.
youdontknowtho 7y ago
There was a lot of that kind of talk after the last election. now that we've blocked a record number of judicial appointments including a supreme court justice, literally took out an ad in the new york times to try an undermine the Iran deal, claimed that the president wasn't a citizen along with all kinds of other horrible stuff, now...now it's finally time for us to work together. This new guy he's president of all of us. Let's get together and make sure... No thank you. At some point it's Charlie Brown's fault for even trying to kick the football.

mcphage 7y ago

> Do you want to punish the other team, or get back to doing the country's work? Could you help me understand—is "running against the ACA for a decade and then having no workable plan for its replacement when you're finally in charge" an example of 'punishing the other team' or an example of 'doing the country's work'?

microcolonel 7y ago
> having no workable plan for its replacement when you're finally in charge Who exactly was "in charge" in 2017 and 2018? It seemed to me that there was not one united faction, nor any coalition, that on a number of popular issues could form a majority over that time period. It seems like it is the normal course of things for the lower and upper representative houses to represent what they will, and for that either to produce or preclude new policy.
- mcphage 7y ago
  > Who exactly was "in charge" in 2017 and 2018? Probably the party that controlled both houses of Congress as well as the White House.
  - microcolonel 7y ago
    Do people not widely know that until recently a huge proportion of Republicans in both houses were never-Trumpers?
    - mcphage 7y ago
      That sure hasn’t stopped them from pushing his candidates through. Nor encouraged them to stand up to his political abuses.

youdontknowtho 7y ago

There was a lot of that kind of talk after the last election. now that we've blocked a record number of judicial appointments including a supreme court justice, literally took out an ad in the new york times to try an undermine the Iran deal, claimed that the president wasn't a citizen along with all kinds of other horrible stuff, now...now it's finally time for us to work together. This new guy he's president of all of us. Let's get together and make sure... No thank you. At some point it's Charlie Brown's fault for even trying to kick the football.