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A problem I have with today's politics/politicians is that once you are part of a group (Republican or Democrat), you tend to vote the same as the group. People

A problem I have with today's politics/politicians is that once you are part of a group (Republican or Democrat), you tend to vote the same as the group. People talk about the free exchange of ideas, but it is in the context of them changing your mind and not the other way around. There's no compromise on either side, why talk about different points of view, if you are not going to change your mind.

dsfyu404ed 7y ago
> you tend to vote the same as the group. People talk about the free exchange of ideas, but it is in the context of them changing your mind and not the other way around. Thank the removal of earmarks and Citizens United for that. Legislators are dependent on those sweet PAC dollars (or more critically, dependent on someone else not getting them) in order to get re-elected and without an earmark to bring home to your district to please your voters with you can't risk losing goodwill with the party elites who control the purse strings by breaking from the party.
humanrebar 7y ago
There is no compromise is the fringes of Twitter. I don't think it's true that literally nobody thinks things through.
- aNoob7000 7y ago
  The problem is not thinking things through. The problem is will enough people vote on something their political party is entirely against or even compromise a little.
  - humanrebar 7y ago
    Can't speak for everyone, but I do. I didn't vote for either presidential candidate last time around especially because of the us-versus-them attitudes all around. Pretending folks like me don't exist isn't going to improve our culture.
zimpenfish 7y ago
> There's no compromise on either side Over the last 10 years, only one side has been consistent in blocking and denying compromise to the other. The Democrats, sadly, naively, keep trying for compromise because they haven't yet quite grasped what's going on (although it finally seems to be filtering through - the Republicans are never going to compromise.)

dsfyu404ed 7y ago

> you tend to vote the same as the group. People talk about the free exchange of ideas, but it is in the context of them changing your mind and not the other way around. Thank the removal of earmarks and Citizens United for that. Legislators are dependent on those sweet PAC dollars (or more critically, dependent on someone else not getting them) in order to get re-elected and without an earmark to bring home to your district to please your voters with you can't risk losing goodwill with the party elites who control the purse strings by breaking from the party.

humanrebar 7y ago

There is no compromise is the fringes of Twitter. I don't think it's true that literally nobody thinks things through.

aNoob7000 7y ago
The problem is not thinking things through. The problem is will enough people vote on something their political party is entirely against or even compromise a little.
- humanrebar 7y ago
  Can't speak for everyone, but I do. I didn't vote for either presidential candidate last time around especially because of the us-versus-them attitudes all around. Pretending folks like me don't exist isn't going to improve our culture.

zimpenfish 7y ago

> There's no compromise on either side Over the last 10 years, only one side has been consistent in blocking and denying compromise to the other. The Democrats, sadly, naively, keep trying for compromise because they haven't yet quite grasped what's going on (although it finally seems to be filtering through - the Republicans are never going to compromise.)