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Nothing against WP7 but I think if this were true, Nokia would be digging themselves another hole. Well they may not fall because of WP7 but I just don't see it

by chapel 16y ago

Nothing against WP7 but I think if this were true, Nokia would be digging themselves another hole. Well they may not fall because of WP7 but I just don't see it giving them a chance to become a super start handset maker they once were. If they chose to make Android phones, I would be interested in purchasing one, since the quality of their phones is very high.

blub 16y ago
And what makes you think that Android would be better? Everyone's already doing Android and the models are becoming very similar to each other.
- mseebach 16y ago
  Nokia has a lot of hardware-tricks up their sleeves. One thing they could do to Android is to make the models stop being so similar to each other. I think, for an example, that an E72 running Android could go a long way in luring away BlackBerry users who are reluctant to give up a HW keyboard. There's currently only one Android device in that space (Desire Z), and it's pretty expensive.
  - metageek 16y ago
    There's also the Droid 2 Pro.
  - blub 16y ago
    They could, except it seems that Motorola beat them to it. :) Hardware can't be much of a differentiator - I am thoroughly unimpressed with the recent avalanche of Android phones. They all look the same, with geeky differences such as dual-core, 1MP larger camera, trackball. All these things are exciting to Engadget and r/Android but are almost irrelevant to consumers and confusing to boot. If I had to pick an Android phone today, I would have no idea how to do it. So I stick to my current phone and wait for real game-changers to appear.
    - mseebach 16y ago
      I completely missed the Droid Pro, which does dilute my argument a bit. But: your statement that all Android phones look the same would support the idea that hardware could be a differentiator. Nokia has a long history of shipping many different kinds of hardware to many different customer segments. Android devices seem to have some trouble breaking out of the high-end segments where they are competing pretty directly with iPhone. The lower end Android devices also feel cheap. A lower-end Nokia never felt cheap.
- nextparadigms 16y ago
  The WP7 phones are much more similar to each other though, both in software and hardware (same chip). Plus, Nokia will have NO control over the OS. And they wouldn't benefit from Android's huge momentum. Even late entrants like LG are selling millions of Android phone units. I thought they wanted to make their own OS so they don't get commoditized and distinguished only by hardware. How is WP7 helping them doing that? It's much worse than Android in that respect.
  - blub 16y ago
    The Android UI tweaks are almost irrelevant and universally despised, so not much of an advantage there. Neither Android nor WP7 would help much here. I wonder how much of Android's momentum is actually just the fact that the phones look cool. Do most of the customers know that they're running Android like they do with iPhone? What would Nokia's differentiators be?

by chapel 16y ago

blub 16y ago

And what makes you think that Android would be better? Everyone's already doing Android and the models are becoming very similar to each other.

mseebach 16y ago
Nokia has a lot of hardware-tricks up their sleeves. One thing they could do to Android is to make the models stop being so similar to each other. I think, for an example, that an E72 running Android could go a long way in luring away BlackBerry users who are reluctant to give up a HW keyboard. There's currently only one Android device in that space (Desire Z), and it's pretty expensive.
- metageek 16y ago
  There's also the Droid 2 Pro.
- blub 16y ago
  They could, except it seems that Motorola beat them to it. :) Hardware can't be much of a differentiator - I am thoroughly unimpressed with the recent avalanche of Android phones. They all look the same, with geeky differences such as dual-core, 1MP larger camera, trackball. All these things are exciting to Engadget and r/Android but are almost irrelevant to consumers and confusing to boot. If I had to pick an Android phone today, I would have no idea how to do it. So I stick to my current phone and wait for real game-changers to appear.
  - mseebach 16y ago
    I completely missed the Droid Pro, which does dilute my argument a bit. But: your statement that all Android phones look the same would support the idea that hardware could be a differentiator. Nokia has a long history of shipping many different kinds of hardware to many different customer segments. Android devices seem to have some trouble breaking out of the high-end segments where they are competing pretty directly with iPhone. The lower end Android devices also feel cheap. A lower-end Nokia never felt cheap.
nextparadigms 16y ago
The WP7 phones are much more similar to each other though, both in software and hardware (same chip). Plus, Nokia will have NO control over the OS. And they wouldn't benefit from Android's huge momentum. Even late entrants like LG are selling millions of Android phone units. I thought they wanted to make their own OS so they don't get commoditized and distinguished only by hardware. How is WP7 helping them doing that? It's much worse than Android in that respect.
- blub 16y ago
  The Android UI tweaks are almost irrelevant and universally despised, so not much of an advantage there. Neither Android nor WP7 would help much here. I wonder how much of Android's momentum is actually just the fact that the phones look cool. Do most of the customers know that they're running Android like they do with iPhone? What would Nokia's differentiators be?