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Based on this information I infer that you have a desktop machine. If you had a PC laptop you’d be equally screwed, with zero chance the shop had a spare mother

by lloeki 7y ago

Based on this information I infer that you have a desktop machine. If you had a PC laptop you’d be equally screwed, with zero chance the shop had a spare motherboard for your machine. Granted you’d be equally screwed with a Mac Mini or iMac but fundamentally this has nothing to do with Apple vs PC. Desktop PCs that can be changed with standard parts or even custom built are not the market norm anymore and entered the specialised market realm long ago. Your post also reads very much as "You're wrong to use Apple" but you have to realise that they produce a very reasonable solution for many. My use case covers a wide spectrum of mobility, security, dev, music, and photo/video editing, and while alternatives can do things like that they won't do so as efficiently and with the same quality across that whole spectrum for me. It would be foolish to shoot myself in the foot by nerfing my workflows every single minute of the day for a rare event. I do have a spare machine (which does not need to be the latest and greatest so can come out pretty cheap), which allows me a very quick turnover to continue working, well within an hour of a fatal failure (and that's even though I have an Apple Store 5 min away from my place).

simion314 7y ago
Not true,IMO 1 I would have got the person at the shop check it and tell me if I need a new laptop or a new part, this happened to a laptop of mine and I decided I would get a new laptop, then the shop person offered to buy the display and RAM from me and I sold it, so a different person would be able to fix his laptop 2 a spare part can be found from a different laptop or ordered online by the shop, so they can order it at the time I arrived with my broken laptop I don't think that I would have been screwed but let me know if you still disagree.
- ryanlol 7y ago
  So other laptops are exactly like macbooks, but presumably the spare parts are less prevalent?
  - simion314 7y ago
    No, the laptop was old and not in a great condition, I would have to buy new motherboard,CPU and who knows what, I preferred not to invest my money into that and get a new one.
- lloeki 7y ago
  > this happened to a laptop of mine and I decided I would get a new laptop Equally true for Apple hardware, that you can get in most reasonably sized shopping malls basically anywhere over here (France). Most places that sell laptops also sell Apple hardware.
  - simion314 7y ago
    Maybe I do not understand your point, but can you go with a broken Apple laptop , without a schedule to shopping mall, have someone test it, tell you a diagnose and how much will it cost, ifv you decide you want a new one would the shop offer you money for the working parts of your Apple laptop( Apple is trying to make this illegal, reusing parts)
    - lloeki 7y ago
      Oh, maybe it's just me that was confused and did not understand your case. Let me fix that: you went to the shop for a diagnosis maybe expecting a simple operation and was told the computer requires unexpectedly expensive repair, so you bought a new one instead? I thought you knew it beforehand since it was old already. In that case where there is no Apple sanctioned repair presence such shops either usually sell Apple hardware and gladly perform support and diagnosis if that can bring them a sale, or they're nice enough to help you anyway with the diagnosis out of good will (people are generally like that in digitally scarce areas) and will direct you to get a new one at the mall (or, they're dicks and then, screw them). You have every right to call me an optimist about human behaviour though ;)
      - simion314 7y ago
        Right, is the same here in Romania, a third party shop will try to help you fix any laptop,phone,tablet , I dislike the fact that Apple is attacking this shops with lawsuits, FUD campaigns, preventing others to buy parts etc.
mastazi 7y ago
> entered the specialised market realm The reasoning in this thread started with something along the lines of "if you use your computer professionally... [statements]". I would argue that if you use your computer professionally you should definitely consider using specialised products, which includes custom built desktops as you correctly noted.
- danaris 7y ago
  For many people—particularly those in creative professional fields like music production—a Mac laptop is the specialised hardware they need, because it is the only thing that supports their workflow (certain software required, must be able to be on-site with it, etc).

by lloeki 7y ago

simion314 7y ago

Not true,IMO 1 I would have got the person at the shop check it and tell me if I need a new laptop or a new part, this happened to a laptop of mine and I decided I would get a new laptop, then the shop person offered to buy the display and RAM from me and I sold it, so a different person would be able to fix his laptop 2 a spare part can be found from a different laptop or ordered online by the shop, so they can order it at the time I arrived with my broken laptop I don't think that I would have been screwed but let me know if you still disagree.

ryanlol 7y ago
So other laptops are exactly like macbooks, but presumably the spare parts are less prevalent?
- simion314 7y ago
  No, the laptop was old and not in a great condition, I would have to buy new motherboard,CPU and who knows what, I preferred not to invest my money into that and get a new one.
lloeki 7y ago
> this happened to a laptop of mine and I decided I would get a new laptop Equally true for Apple hardware, that you can get in most reasonably sized shopping malls basically anywhere over here (France). Most places that sell laptops also sell Apple hardware.
- simion314 7y ago
  Maybe I do not understand your point, but can you go with a broken Apple laptop , without a schedule to shopping mall, have someone test it, tell you a diagnose and how much will it cost, ifv you decide you want a new one would the shop offer you money for the working parts of your Apple laptop( Apple is trying to make this illegal, reusing parts)
  - lloeki 7y ago
    Oh, maybe it's just me that was confused and did not understand your case. Let me fix that: you went to the shop for a diagnosis maybe expecting a simple operation and was told the computer requires unexpectedly expensive repair, so you bought a new one instead? I thought you knew it beforehand since it was old already. In that case where there is no Apple sanctioned repair presence such shops either usually sell Apple hardware and gladly perform support and diagnosis if that can bring them a sale, or they're nice enough to help you anyway with the diagnosis out of good will (people are generally like that in digitally scarce areas) and will direct you to get a new one at the mall (or, they're dicks and then, screw them). You have every right to call me an optimist about human behaviour though ;)
    - simion314 7y ago
      Right, is the same here in Romania, a third party shop will try to help you fix any laptop,phone,tablet , I dislike the fact that Apple is attacking this shops with lawsuits, FUD campaigns, preventing others to buy parts etc.

mastazi 7y ago

> entered the specialised market realm The reasoning in this thread started with something along the lines of "if you use your computer professionally... [statements]". I would argue that if you use your computer professionally you should definitely consider using specialised products, which includes custom built desktops as you correctly noted.

danaris 7y ago
For many people—particularly those in creative professional fields like music production—a Mac laptop is the specialised hardware they need, because it is the only thing that supports their workflow (certain software required, must be able to be on-site with it, etc).