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Pay your taxes. Just pay them. If you are wealthy enough to worry about and have to time to game the tax system, you should just pay them. Don't over-itemize t

by britch 7y ago

Pay your taxes. Just pay them. If you are wealthy enough to worry about and have to time to game the tax system, you should just pay them. Don't over-itemize to save yourself a few hundred dollars. The attitude of avoiding taxes baffles me. We are the government. We all use roads and rely on the infrastructure, the idea that is it normal to not pay your fair share angers me to no end. I understand using a 401K, getting exemptions for some things are built into the system. I am not talking about those. If you are truly struggling, I understand why you would need to game the system a bit. I am talking about wealthy and middle class people who deliberately abuse the tax code. Be a good citizen, pay your goddamn taxes.

scarface74 7y ago
The government on the federal level doesn’t need more money. They need to spend less. If they were using the money on the social safety net or infrastructure. I might agree.
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lotsofpulp 7y ago
What is this comment in response to? The linked article does not advocate evading taxes in any way. What is the definition of “deliberately abusing” the tax code? If it’s legal, it’s legal.
- Kluny 7y ago
  Probably the headline in the article, "Minimize your Taxes".
  - lotsofpulp 7y ago
    Doesn’t make any sense to me to say “pay your taxes” to someone who is paying their taxes. Minimizing the amount one pays does not change the fact that they paid, what they owed.
nilram 7y ago
Justice Learned Hand wrote “Anyone may arrange his affairs so that his taxes shall be as low as possible; he is not bound to choose that pattern which best pays the treasury. There is not even a patriotic duty to increase one's taxes." And, “Over and over again courts have said that there is nothing sinister in so arranging one's affairs as to keep taxes as low as possible. Everybody does so, rich or poor; and all do right, for nobody owes any public duty to pay more than the law demands: taxes are enforced exactions, not voluntary contributions. To demand more in the name of morals is mere cant.”
fetus8 7y ago
"Be a good citizen, pay your goddamn taxes." Ok, so like why should I be a good citizen and pay my share of taxes when loads of giant companies, corporations, and wealthy individuals get out of paying millions in taxes every year by abusing the tax code?
loeg 7y ago
> Pay your taxes. No one is saying otherwise, including the article. > I understand using a 401K, getting exemptions for some things are built into the system. I am not talking about those. What are you talking about, exactly? > I am talking about wealthy and middle class people who deliberately abuse the tax code. Can you elaborate here? Do you mean violate, or just take some deductions that they are entitled to, but that you don't like?

by britch 7y ago

scarface74 7y ago

The government on the federal level doesn’t need more money. They need to spend less. If they were using the money on the social safety net or infrastructure. I might agree.

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lotsofpulp 7y ago

What is this comment in response to? The linked article does not advocate evading taxes in any way. What is the definition of “deliberately abusing” the tax code? If it’s legal, it’s legal.

Kluny 7y ago
Probably the headline in the article, "Minimize your Taxes".
- lotsofpulp 7y ago
  Doesn’t make any sense to me to say “pay your taxes” to someone who is paying their taxes. Minimizing the amount one pays does not change the fact that they paid, what they owed.

nilram 7y ago

Justice Learned Hand wrote “Anyone may arrange his affairs so that his taxes shall be as low as possible; he is not bound to choose that pattern which best pays the treasury. There is not even a patriotic duty to increase one's taxes." And, “Over and over again courts have said that there is nothing sinister in so arranging one's affairs as to keep taxes as low as possible. Everybody does so, rich or poor; and all do right, for nobody owes any public duty to pay more than the law demands: taxes are enforced exactions, not voluntary contributions. To demand more in the name of morals is mere cant.”

fetus8 7y ago

"Be a good citizen, pay your goddamn taxes." Ok, so like why should I be a good citizen and pay my share of taxes when loads of giant companies, corporations, and wealthy individuals get out of paying millions in taxes every year by abusing the tax code?

loeg 7y ago

> Pay your taxes. No one is saying otherwise, including the article. > I understand using a 401K, getting exemptions for some things are built into the system. I am not talking about those. What are you talking about, exactly? > I am talking about wealthy and middle class people who deliberately abuse the tax code. Can you elaborate here? Do you mean violate, or just take some deductions that they are entitled to, but that you don't like?