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spread information to others So only consume - not produce?

dheera 7y ago
It's not about the words. If you are taking information about the Tiananmen incident and cross-posting to Chinese websites that's a no-no. If you are just going on Facebook to catch up with your friends from your college studies, or an investor reading about new tech in the US, or just bored and reading about goofy pirates on Wikipedia, or accessing academic papers on Google, or a manufacturer using a banned IM service to negotiate deals with your customers, they won't give a crap. It is the intent that matters, not your actions. Hell, you can translate all the awesome startups on TechCrunch into Chinese and distribute it internally, that's also okay, just leave out anything about the HK protests and you'll be fine.
- atomi 7y ago
  The truth is more dystopian. Maybe, TechCrunch or Wikipedia are fine today - but not tomorrow. It's all made up to serve the party.
  - dheera 7y ago
    The "party" isn't one evil Orwellian entity that goes around terrorizing people. They are also responsible for a massive high speed rail network, taking down coal plants in favor of clean energy, curbing gas cars on the roads, building huge amounts of schools, and lots of other things. Trump does some dystopian things as well -- it doesn't mean the entire US government is bad, and it doesn't mean the entire Republican party is bad, either. I'm not defending the dystopian things done in China -- I hate those things, like internet censorship, and extending Xi's term of office -- but "made up to serve the party" isn't exactly what's behind the scenes here. Rather, consider that some of their main goals right now are (a) stability (b) public safety (c) fighting corruption (d) maintaining economic power (e) supporting and balancing the resource necessities of 1.3 billion people. They chose a certain approach to achieving those goals. The current approach may be highly disputable and there are lots of things that should be done differently in my opinion, and very likely your opinion as well. But China isn't North Korea. This stuff isn't exactly designed to "serve" president Xi or the party and if you think people are being forced to bow down to him like Kim Jong Un you have the wrong picture.

It's not about the words. If you are taking information about the Tiananmen incident and cross-posting to Chinese websites that's a no-no. If you are just going on Facebook to catch up with your friends from your college studies, or an investor reading about new tech in the US, or just bored and reading about goofy pirates on Wikipedia, or accessing academic papers on Google, or a manufacturer using a banned IM service to negotiate deals with your customers, they won't give a crap. It is the intent that matters, not your actions. Hell, you can translate all the awesome startups on TechCrunch into Chinese and distribute it internally, that's also okay, just leave out anything about the HK protests and you'll be fine.

atomi 7y ago
The truth is more dystopian. Maybe, TechCrunch or Wikipedia are fine today - but not tomorrow. It's all made up to serve the party.
- dheera 7y ago
  The "party" isn't one evil Orwellian entity that goes around terrorizing people. They are also responsible for a massive high speed rail network, taking down coal plants in favor of clean energy, curbing gas cars on the roads, building huge amounts of schools, and lots of other things. Trump does some dystopian things as well -- it doesn't mean the entire US government is bad, and it doesn't mean the entire Republican party is bad, either. I'm not defending the dystopian things done in China -- I hate those things, like internet censorship, and extending Xi's term of office -- but "made up to serve the party" isn't exactly what's behind the scenes here. Rather, consider that some of their main goals right now are (a) stability (b) public safety (c) fighting corruption (d) maintaining economic power (e) supporting and balancing the resource necessities of 1.3 billion people. They chose a certain approach to achieving those goals. The current approach may be highly disputable and there are lots of things that should be done differently in my opinion, and very likely your opinion as well. But China isn't North Korea. This stuff isn't exactly designed to "serve" president Xi or the party and if you think people are being forced to bow down to him like Kim Jong Un you have the wrong picture.