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You don't need to require OEMs sell their parts. They just need to be unencumbered by IP and other restrictions, i.e. customs. Then the parts will become availa
by ben509 7y ago
You don't need to require OEMs sell their parts. They just need to be unencumbered by IP and other restrictions, i.e. customs. Then the parts will become available on the secondary market as companies disassemble dead devices and resell them.
- olliej 7y agoSo Apple should be required to license their cpu design to other companies?
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- kcbanner 7y agoHow does third parties disassembling and reselling parts equate to licensing a cpu design?
- olliej 7y agoA most of the time the third parties are sourcing from recovered parts, they’re dealing in parts stolen from factories. But you are right - if they did gets the parts from a different device they should be allowed to reuse them freely.
- TeMPOraL 7y ago> A most of the time the third parties are sourcing from recovered parts, they’re dealing in parts stolen from factories. Wonder if there's any data on that. Given the extent to which China recycles electronics (some of which I've seen myself), it wouldn't surprise me if China-sourced replacement components were actually recovered from discarded devices.
- olliej 7y agoApple also has refurbishment programs that tear down and rebuild devices, I suspect some of those refurb parts are reported to Apple as being destroyed but then sold.
- th3l3mons 7y agoApple has used US Customs to seize parts intended for repairs, including parts from donor boards. Apple sued (and last I knew was trying to appeal) a Norway repair shop for repairing iPhones using "counterfeit" components. iirc, some parts, including the display, must match appropriately or the OS won't boot as a form of parts validation, effectively preventing display swaps when repairing. I don't think the previous comment was licensing the design. Apple has been very aggressive with donor parts and data recovery.
- olliej 7y agoI’d be interested in knowing where those parts came from - do they come from Apple facilities (because apple does refurbish devices) or do they come entirely from third party recyclers? I’ve seen plenty of articles about parts coming directly from factories, rather than from torn down devices. What is the actual ratio of stolen vs recovered by non-Apple facilities ? I’m sure Apple would claim 100% stolen and rtr orgs would say 100% recovered. Note that Apple pays (in the form of a discount) for returned devices so if a refurbisher is selling parts they’ve claimed aren’t recoverable they are selling stolen goods (reason for destroying irrecoverable devices is to reduce/remove incentive for this type of theft)