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Why is that scenario Apple’s problem?

_1 7y ago
Because people only read headlines
nomel 7y ago
Or to put a more sinister way, it could be entirely prevented by Apple with full hardware signing. It could mean that having an iPhone in your hand means it's completely legitimate, increasing actual and perceived quality and resale value.
- someguydave 7y ago
  “Full hardware signing” is easier said than done.
junipertea 7y ago
It hurts Apple brand
- brokenmachine 7y ago
  And? If you sell a product, you don't own it anymore. The owner owns it and should be able to do whatever they want with it. If someone is selling exploding batteries that fit an iphone, it's up to the government to shut them down for being unsafe, or the burn victims to sue the exploding battery repair shops. Despite their marketing, Apple is not the only company in the world that is capable of making a non-exploding battery. The FUD about iphones being some magical object carried down on the wings of angels and suddenly becoming unclean and flammable because a third-party battery was inserted is ridiculous. Laptops have had replaceable batteries for decades without the sky falling down - until the Apple reality-distortion field was successfully engaged to disable people's rational thinking.
Shivetya 7y ago
Some customers would assume that since a place did repair the phone that Apple approves of them doing so, therefor putting liability on Apple. Any such harm coming from that phone would be first applied to Apple and Apple would have to expend money to prove otherwise. I have no problem with allow customers to select the shop they want for out of warranty work but I am fully in the camp of manufacturers being able to provide an obvious means for shops to have certification to repair a device in warranty. As to the idea of "Right to Repair". I work in the automotive industry and the company I work for lives by this, however by no means is it realistic that having the information, tools, and parts, would guarantee a good result for all those who undertake the work. Plus people do have an unrealistic idea of which parts would ever be replaceable. Batteries sure, but individual chips would be not be.
- brokenmachine 7y ago
  >Some customers would assume that since a place did repair the phone that Apple approves of them doing so, therefor putting liability on Apple. This whole argument is that Apple should not be able to "approve" anyone from doing anything they want with the phone that they supposedly paid for and own. >Plus people do have an unrealistic idea of which parts would ever be replaceable. Batteries sure, but individual chips would be not be. There was a video I saw about a guy putting together his own iphone from parts in China. They can replace individual chips. But not with the DMCA.

_1 7y ago

Because people only read headlines

Or to put a more sinister way, it could be entirely prevented by Apple with full hardware signing. It could mean that having an iPhone in your hand means it's completely legitimate, increasing actual and perceived quality and resale value.

someguydave 7y ago
“Full hardware signing” is easier said than done.

junipertea 7y ago

It hurts Apple brand

brokenmachine 7y ago
And? If you sell a product, you don't own it anymore. The owner owns it and should be able to do whatever they want with it. If someone is selling exploding batteries that fit an iphone, it's up to the government to shut them down for being unsafe, or the burn victims to sue the exploding battery repair shops. Despite their marketing, Apple is not the only company in the world that is capable of making a non-exploding battery. The FUD about iphones being some magical object carried down on the wings of angels and suddenly becoming unclean and flammable because a third-party battery was inserted is ridiculous. Laptops have had replaceable batteries for decades without the sky falling down - until the Apple reality-distortion field was successfully engaged to disable people's rational thinking.

Shivetya 7y ago

Some customers would assume that since a place did repair the phone that Apple approves of them doing so, therefor putting liability on Apple. Any such harm coming from that phone would be first applied to Apple and Apple would have to expend money to prove otherwise. I have no problem with allow customers to select the shop they want for out of warranty work but I am fully in the camp of manufacturers being able to provide an obvious means for shops to have certification to repair a device in warranty. As to the idea of "Right to Repair". I work in the automotive industry and the company I work for lives by this, however by no means is it realistic that having the information, tools, and parts, would guarantee a good result for all those who undertake the work. Plus people do have an unrealistic idea of which parts would ever be replaceable. Batteries sure, but individual chips would be not be.

brokenmachine 7y ago
>Some customers would assume that since a place did repair the phone that Apple approves of them doing so, therefor putting liability on Apple. This whole argument is that Apple should not be able to "approve" anyone from doing anything they want with the phone that they supposedly paid for and own. >Plus people do have an unrealistic idea of which parts would ever be replaceable. Batteries sure, but individual chips would be not be. There was a video I saw about a guy putting together his own iphone from parts in China. They can replace individual chips. But not with the DMCA.