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Yes, Andy Kelley being really reasonable: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=20231484 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=20231484 Calling me a scammer bec

Yes, Andy Kelley being really reasonable: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=20231484 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=20231484 Calling me a scammer because "V requires glfw and freetype". I have no words.

lifthrasiir 7y ago
And also clang. If your initial release only has a code generation using clang, it is your hard dependency. Windows doesn't have a native compiler and it must have a compiler beforehand---so a bare compiler wouldn't work at all! (I know that the initial release lacked Windows. But I have no reason to believe that the Windows version will be different.) Don't tell me that it is a pre-alpha and will be updated on 22 June, that reads like a sure way to instantly kill your reputation. Always make sure that what you have presented (not what you will present) and what you have said align to each other.
- amedvednikov 7y ago
  C is the L0 language needed for bootstrapping anyway. You say "also". What else?
  - kingkong2022 7y ago
    > C is the L0 language needed for bootstrapping anyway. Nice attitude BTW. Because it is required for bootstrapping, so it is not a dependency even though I can't use V compiler without it. Great!!!
  - lifthrasiir 7y ago
    > C is the L0 language needed for bootstrapping anyway. So it is your hard dependency. Describe so. > You say "also". What else? If you think that they are spreading the misinformation because some of claimed dependencies are actually for stdlib, you should think again. A substantial subset of HN users would think that "zero dependencies" promise extends to stdlib, as it is technically possible to have out-of-box UI and graphics in the stdlib and especially Go was famous of its independent crypto and network libraries. Your statement was not clear enough.
    - amedvednikov 7y ago
      The graphics libraries are not part of stdlib, UI only uses system libraries that are preinstalled. Next?

lifthrasiir 7y ago

And also clang. If your initial release only has a code generation using clang, it is your hard dependency. Windows doesn't have a native compiler and it must have a compiler beforehand---so a bare compiler wouldn't work at all! (I know that the initial release lacked Windows. But I have no reason to believe that the Windows version will be different.) Don't tell me that it is a pre-alpha and will be updated on 22 June, that reads like a sure way to instantly kill your reputation. Always make sure that what you have presented (not what you will present) and what you have said align to each other.

amedvednikov 7y ago
C is the L0 language needed for bootstrapping anyway. You say "also". What else?
- kingkong2022 7y ago
  > C is the L0 language needed for bootstrapping anyway. Nice attitude BTW. Because it is required for bootstrapping, so it is not a dependency even though I can't use V compiler without it. Great!!!
- lifthrasiir 7y ago
  > C is the L0 language needed for bootstrapping anyway. So it is your hard dependency. Describe so. > You say "also". What else? If you think that they are spreading the misinformation because some of claimed dependencies are actually for stdlib, you should think again. A substantial subset of HN users would think that "zero dependencies" promise extends to stdlib, as it is technically possible to have out-of-box UI and graphics in the stdlib and especially Go was famous of its independent crypto and network libraries. Your statement was not clear enough.
  - amedvednikov 7y ago
    The graphics libraries are not part of stdlib, UI only uses system libraries that are preinstalled. Next?