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I am about to leave a company made by very bad managers, even if my line manager is great (he is a former rugby player and rugby manager, then he really know ho

I am about to leave a company made by very bad managers, even if my line manager is great (he is a former rugby player and rugby manager, then he really know how to manage a team). Good manager: * It's a person that I can trust, everytime * He is always on my side, even with upper managers * No micromanagement (he is in another office, far away from me) * Very clear and deep communication (sometimes is a bit verbose, but it's okay) * He can take reponsabilities and fight for them * He always drive me to growing * Care about people and feelings Bad managers * No responsabilities at all * Care about end year bonus, not about people * Using people to fight each other * No communication at all * Trying to exploiting people with tricks and hidden moves * Manipulators * Arrogants and conceiteds

meerita 7y ago
> He is always on my side, even with upper managers Give one example why you need to go against upper management. UM wants you to achieve their design, they don't want you to be free will and do what you think it's best for the company.
- g-clef 7y ago
  Upper management is not omniscient. They may want you to achieve their design in an unrealistic timeframe or with unrealistic resources. Their design may not be technically possible. It's perfectly normal for line-level management to push back in cases like this. Failing to do so means that line-level management will be setting themselves and their team up for failure.
  - meerita 7y ago
    I never said they're omniscient. But it sounds bad middle management than C-LEVEL bad management. When things are asked to be done, there's a process to know this. Nothing starts, at least, in serious companies, without measuring the scope the project, the time requiered and the amount of resources (maybe you need to hire more or something pro on that area) to achieve something. It's true there are companies where the CEO jumps on the role he wants and start changing things micromanaging.

meerita 7y ago

> He is always on my side, even with upper managers Give one example why you need to go against upper management. UM wants you to achieve their design, they don't want you to be free will and do what you think it's best for the company.

g-clef 7y ago
Upper management is not omniscient. They may want you to achieve their design in an unrealistic timeframe or with unrealistic resources. Their design may not be technically possible. It's perfectly normal for line-level management to push back in cases like this. Failing to do so means that line-level management will be setting themselves and their team up for failure.
- meerita 7y ago
  I never said they're omniscient. But it sounds bad middle management than C-LEVEL bad management. When things are asked to be done, there's a process to know this. Nothing starts, at least, in serious companies, without measuring the scope the project, the time requiered and the amount of resources (maybe you need to hire more or something pro on that area) to achieve something. It's true there are companies where the CEO jumps on the role he wants and start changing things micromanaging.