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I have had a good and bad manager! Here are the traits of each one Bad One: Gets pissed off easily when something doesn't work, focuses on himself, doesn't li

I have had a good and bad manager! Here are the traits of each one Bad One: Gets pissed off easily when something doesn't work, focuses on himself, doesn't like when people go on leaves while he himself enjoys vacation twice a year, discriminates, uses trickery to get things done, uses his ego in product decision making in case of a technical debate, not at all honest Good one: Rarely looses his cool, may not write code but brilliant with products and product architecture overall, defeats you in technical debates using intelligence rather than his command and ego, is honest & loyal with you and so are you, is a boss but works with you like a team When I started out I remember once I was staying late to the office coz I had some pending work, my manager stayed with me because he had good understanding of the problem and he dropped me off(I used to travel using companies transport) even though he had to take detour. Best product manager ever!

davidrm 7y ago
> doesn't like when people go on leaves while he himself enjoys vacation twice a year the US sounds like a dystopia more and more everyday. sure, one could make the case that these work habits are a reason for your success, but who is really benefiting that success?
- maddy1512 7y ago
  > the US sounds like a dystopia more and more everyday. sure, one could make the case that these work habits are a reason for your success, but who is really benefiting that success? Talking about India not US!
  - davidrm 7y ago
    ahh it ocurred to me that i might be wrong, but repeatedly hearing from expat friends how americans find the number of vacation days in EU shocking, i decided to poke anyways
    - kzzzznot 7y ago
      I thought the same. I think 10 days paid leave is considered competitive in the US. I’m in the UK where 25 days is considered competitive.
      - jldugger 7y ago
        10 days is garbage even in the US. You take it, but you grumble about it. Partially, nobody in the US knows how to value vacation, I think. So even highly paid people kinda shrug at vacation and don't really factor it in.
        maxheadroom 7y ago
        >Partially, nobody in the US knows how to value vacation, I think. It's partly engrained into the culture and partly to do with the prohibitively expensive means of travel. For example, you could probably find a flight from London to Paris (return trip) for under 50 quid (for one). In the states, there's no way you're traveling that same distance and paying less than 300 quid, I'd say. So, it's a combination of both but I think the expense contributes, or lends itself directly, to the social stigmatisation.
        cableshaft 7y ago
        Just did some test trips of that distance, and for me (based in Chicago) it would be about $200 for flights of the same distance. But that just takes me to St.Louis, Cincinnati, Detroit. I've been to all of them before, and there's some nice parts about them, but they're not a completely different culture like Paris is to London. Hell, St. Louis is just barely in a different state. Pretty much all the chain stores are the same in every city you go to in the US, so it really enforces the sameness of the country. There's unique landmarks and museums and parks and local restaurants, but half the city is going to look the same as every other city. Detroit is actually the closest comparison to London/Paris, because you can go through a tunnel at the edge of Detroit to Windsor Canada, and then you do get a bit of a culture shift. But with Paris, further travel to other very different cultures are just some quick and cheap train rides away, whereas I just have more Canada.
- c0vfefe 7y ago
  This isn't the US, this is human nature. Or rather, "bad manager" nature. A dystopia would be where everybody was a bad manager.

davidrm 7y ago

> doesn't like when people go on leaves while he himself enjoys vacation twice a year the US sounds like a dystopia more and more everyday. sure, one could make the case that these work habits are a reason for your success, but who is really benefiting that success?

maddy1512 7y ago
> the US sounds like a dystopia more and more everyday. sure, one could make the case that these work habits are a reason for your success, but who is really benefiting that success? Talking about India not US!
- davidrm 7y ago
  ahh it ocurred to me that i might be wrong, but repeatedly hearing from expat friends how americans find the number of vacation days in EU shocking, i decided to poke anyways
  - kzzzznot 7y ago
    I thought the same. I think 10 days paid leave is considered competitive in the US. I’m in the UK where 25 days is considered competitive.
    - jldugger 7y ago
      10 days is garbage even in the US. You take it, but you grumble about it. Partially, nobody in the US knows how to value vacation, I think. So even highly paid people kinda shrug at vacation and don't really factor it in.
      - maxheadroom 7y ago
        >Partially, nobody in the US knows how to value vacation, I think. It's partly engrained into the culture and partly to do with the prohibitively expensive means of travel. For example, you could probably find a flight from London to Paris (return trip) for under 50 quid (for one). In the states, there's no way you're traveling that same distance and paying less than 300 quid, I'd say. So, it's a combination of both but I think the expense contributes, or lends itself directly, to the social stigmatisation.
        cableshaft 7y ago
        Just did some test trips of that distance, and for me (based in Chicago) it would be about $200 for flights of the same distance. But that just takes me to St.Louis, Cincinnati, Detroit. I've been to all of them before, and there's some nice parts about them, but they're not a completely different culture like Paris is to London. Hell, St. Louis is just barely in a different state. Pretty much all the chain stores are the same in every city you go to in the US, so it really enforces the sameness of the country. There's unique landmarks and museums and parks and local restaurants, but half the city is going to look the same as every other city. Detroit is actually the closest comparison to London/Paris, because you can go through a tunnel at the edge of Detroit to Windsor Canada, and then you do get a bit of a culture shift. But with Paris, further travel to other very different cultures are just some quick and cheap train rides away, whereas I just have more Canada.
c0vfefe 7y ago
This isn't the US, this is human nature. Or rather, "bad manager" nature. A dystopia would be where everybody was a bad manager.