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The claims in the homepage are completely refuted by the readme in the downloaded package. The compiler is not 400 kb dependency free. It requires shit ton of s

by kingkong2022 7y ago

The claims in the homepage are completely refuted by the readme in the downloaded package. The compiler is not 400 kb dependency free. It requires shit ton of stuff. The codegen as well as hot code reloading is not present, so even the compiler performance claims and hcr on the homepage are lies. Even Rust like memory management that they claimed is not there. Volt is said to be written in Vlang using the UI present in this download. But the readme says that the UI package does not run on Linux, so how can Volt be written in Vlang? Honesty I don't see why the hype behind Vlang and why so optimistic comments here. Vlang feels worse than a pre alpha software with a good marketing team that is just trying to make money. It does not even have the features it claims it has. But just look at its patreon, it gets much more than odin lang, which IMO is much further into development than vlang is. That said, it would not be so bad if the developer did not make false claims and just say that this is pre-alpha software, but instead he makes bold claims and fights for them aggresively (see issue by gingerbill linked elsewhere on this page), which can now be seen that all of them have been lies. Edit: (posting my comment from below) https://support.patreon.com/hc/en-us/articles/204914235-How-do-I-report-content-that-violates-community-guidelines- https://support.patreon.com/hc/en-us/articles/204914235-How-... People with patreon accounts should report this guy.

ncmncm 7y ago
Memory management points up probably the most significant weakness. Give it a destructor or a drop trait or something that can be tied to scope exit. You don't need custom memory management features if you have resource management, because then memory is just another resource. p.s. It says in the docs that its name is not vlang. That's just the web domain.
amedvednikov 7y ago
> It requires shit ton of stuff. No it doesn't. You can build the compiler with `clang v.c` > But the readme says that the UI package does not run on Linux, so how can Volt be written in Vlang? The UI package is not available for everyone on Linux yet. Doesn't mean I can't use it. > hot code reloading is not present It will be on June 22. Why do you spread lies and even ask to report me based on these lies? Are you the developer of Odin, who started a similar thread 3 months ago?
- kingkong2022 7y ago
  SO many comments and questions on this thread, yet you chose to reply on only the ones which point out your hypocrisy and lies that can be seen by everyone. Most of the features listed on your website are not implemented in the compiler as per "your own" readme. > No it doesn't. You can build the compiler with `clang v.c` No one is talking about building the compiler. It is about dependencies required by the V compiler. It is not 400kb without dependencies. It requires clang, and the stdlib requires graphics libraries. You just cannot claim to be 400 kb dependency free. > The UI package is not available for everyone on Linux yet. Doesn't mean I can't use it. I assume Rust like memory management is also available only to you? Because again nobody can see it in the release. Or how do Volt and the 10 other projects you have written in V manage memory? > It will be on June 22. Yeah? People will be waiting to try it out. > Why do you spread lies and even ask to report me based on these lies? Me? Lies? LOL. Me and Andrew both just pointed out the discrepency between the website and the readme. So either the website is wrong or the readme is wrong. If the website is wrong, you are a blatant liar. If the readme is wrong, then why am I not being able to compile V code without clang? > Are you the developer of Odin, who started a similar thread 3 months ago? No I am not. And he probably was the first one to catch your bluff.
  - amedvednikov 7y ago
    > It is about dependencies required by the V compiler. V compiler doesn't require glfw or freetype. It doesn't require anything.
  - amedvednikov 7y ago
    I think you are. Immediately creating a throwaway, jumping in, and spreading lies, misinformation, just like last time, when I released the playground early.
    - kingkong2022 7y ago
      > pointed out the discrepency between the website and the readme. So either the website is wrong or the readme is wrong. If the website is wrong, you are a blatant liar. If the readme is wrong, then why am I not being able to compile V code without clang? Am I the one spreading misinformation here?

ncmncm 7y ago

Memory management points up probably the most significant weakness. Give it a destructor or a drop trait or something that can be tied to scope exit. You don't need custom memory management features if you have resource management, because then memory is just another resource. p.s. It says in the docs that its name is not vlang. That's just the web domain.

amedvednikov 7y ago

> It requires shit ton of stuff. No it doesn't. You can build the compiler with `clang v.c` > But the readme says that the UI package does not run on Linux, so how can Volt be written in Vlang? The UI package is not available for everyone on Linux yet. Doesn't mean I can't use it. > hot code reloading is not present It will be on June 22. Why do you spread lies and even ask to report me based on these lies? Are you the developer of Odin, who started a similar thread 3 months ago?

kingkong2022 7y ago
SO many comments and questions on this thread, yet you chose to reply on only the ones which point out your hypocrisy and lies that can be seen by everyone. Most of the features listed on your website are not implemented in the compiler as per "your own" readme. > No it doesn't. You can build the compiler with `clang v.c` No one is talking about building the compiler. It is about dependencies required by the V compiler. It is not 400kb without dependencies. It requires clang, and the stdlib requires graphics libraries. You just cannot claim to be 400 kb dependency free. > The UI package is not available for everyone on Linux yet. Doesn't mean I can't use it. I assume Rust like memory management is also available only to you? Because again nobody can see it in the release. Or how do Volt and the 10 other projects you have written in V manage memory? > It will be on June 22. Yeah? People will be waiting to try it out. > Why do you spread lies and even ask to report me based on these lies? Me? Lies? LOL. Me and Andrew both just pointed out the discrepency between the website and the readme. So either the website is wrong or the readme is wrong. If the website is wrong, you are a blatant liar. If the readme is wrong, then why am I not being able to compile V code without clang? > Are you the developer of Odin, who started a similar thread 3 months ago? No I am not. And he probably was the first one to catch your bluff.
- amedvednikov 7y ago
  > It is about dependencies required by the V compiler. V compiler doesn't require glfw or freetype. It doesn't require anything.
- amedvednikov 7y ago
  I think you are. Immediately creating a throwaway, jumping in, and spreading lies, misinformation, just like last time, when I released the playground early.
  - kingkong2022 7y ago
    > pointed out the discrepency between the website and the readme. So either the website is wrong or the readme is wrong. If the website is wrong, you are a blatant liar. If the readme is wrong, then why am I not being able to compile V code without clang? Am I the one spreading misinformation here?