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Which desktop mail client do you recommend? I keep trying to leave g-apps, but the search (and address autocomplete) keeps dragging me back. I'm more than happy

Which desktop mail client do you recommend? I keep trying to leave g-apps, but the search (and address autocomplete) keeps dragging me back. I'm more than happy to pay for quality, if that makes a difference.

mhb 7y ago
Thunderbird?
- tonyarkles 7y ago
  I use Thunderbird daily, to manage multiple email accounts, and I love it very much. I wouldn't, though, call its search functionality "good". For simple queries it works so-so, but for anything complex I end up logging into the Gmail or O365 web apps. This is pretty much my only gripe with it. And for daily use, I dramatically prefer it over webmail. One other thing that makes me chuckle more than anything... the scam email detection heuristics count cross-domain images to be indicators of scams/phishing. I have two clients who have signature images linked from a different domain, and every message has a red header that warns "THIS MESSAGE MAY BE A SCAM". More than you know, Thunderbird. More than you know.
  - tbrock 7y ago
    I love open source as much as the next person but thunderbird is bad, not evolution bad, but bad. If you have hundreds of thousands of email messages from a decade of email it just breaks. I’m +1 on superhuman but I miss sparrow.
    - 1_player 7y ago
      Do you have an invite for Superhuman?
    - tonyarkles 7y ago
      Yeah, definitely miss Sparrow. I'm actually pretty amazed at how well Thunderbird seems to handle my 5 email accounts with messages going back to 2004. Unless I have to search...
  - beagle3 7y ago
    My 12 accounts are spread over a handful of providers, with emails going back to 2006 in some; While I agree thunderbird's search is inferior to gmail's, its global indexer is decent in capabilities and horrible in ux, whereas the "standard" search is horrible in capabilities and speed, but decent in ux. I use the "expression search" addon, which is perfect as long as you only need to search on metadata; and the global indexer when I do. It's not perfect, but it doesn't make me want to quit in anger, and not even to surrender my privacy to google.
- lasagnaphil 7y ago
  To be honest, Thunderbird isn't the most shining e-mail client. First of all, its UI lacks appeal (for example, it doesn't support viewing conversations in a single page, although you can install a plugin for it). And it is sometimes pretty sluggish (probably because it is made with XULRunner, similar to Electron) But I still use Thunderbird despite all these problems. It is the only email client that supports both Windows and Linux, supports HTML, and doesn't require you to create an account and connect to a third-party DB to use it (I'm looking at you, Mailspring!)
larrysalibra 7y ago
Superhuman
- rewtraw 7y ago
  I wondered what happened to Superhuman earlier today, did they ever ship? Same sign up page and inactive twitter for years.
  - tonydiv 7y ago
    Seem to be still pushing some small UX features but that's all I know
  - corobo 7y ago
    Built by the creator of Gmail so it'll probably be an invite/referral only thing for 5 years or so..
dredmorbius 7y ago
Mutt. In all seriousness. Kmail (or KDE's integrated PIM, Kontact), are GUI alternatives.

mhb 7y ago

Thunderbird?

tonyarkles 7y ago
I use Thunderbird daily, to manage multiple email accounts, and I love it very much. I wouldn't, though, call its search functionality "good". For simple queries it works so-so, but for anything complex I end up logging into the Gmail or O365 web apps. This is pretty much my only gripe with it. And for daily use, I dramatically prefer it over webmail. One other thing that makes me chuckle more than anything... the scam email detection heuristics count cross-domain images to be indicators of scams/phishing. I have two clients who have signature images linked from a different domain, and every message has a red header that warns "THIS MESSAGE MAY BE A SCAM". More than you know, Thunderbird. More than you know.
- tbrock 7y ago
  I love open source as much as the next person but thunderbird is bad, not evolution bad, but bad. If you have hundreds of thousands of email messages from a decade of email it just breaks. I’m +1 on superhuman but I miss sparrow.
  - 1_player 7y ago
    Do you have an invite for Superhuman?
  - tonyarkles 7y ago
    Yeah, definitely miss Sparrow. I'm actually pretty amazed at how well Thunderbird seems to handle my 5 email accounts with messages going back to 2004. Unless I have to search...
- beagle3 7y ago
  My 12 accounts are spread over a handful of providers, with emails going back to 2006 in some; While I agree thunderbird's search is inferior to gmail's, its global indexer is decent in capabilities and horrible in ux, whereas the "standard" search is horrible in capabilities and speed, but decent in ux. I use the "expression search" addon, which is perfect as long as you only need to search on metadata; and the global indexer when I do. It's not perfect, but it doesn't make me want to quit in anger, and not even to surrender my privacy to google.
lasagnaphil 7y ago
To be honest, Thunderbird isn't the most shining e-mail client. First of all, its UI lacks appeal (for example, it doesn't support viewing conversations in a single page, although you can install a plugin for it). And it is sometimes pretty sluggish (probably because it is made with XULRunner, similar to Electron) But I still use Thunderbird despite all these problems. It is the only email client that supports both Windows and Linux, supports HTML, and doesn't require you to create an account and connect to a third-party DB to use it (I'm looking at you, Mailspring!)

larrysalibra 7y ago

Superhuman

rewtraw 7y ago
I wondered what happened to Superhuman earlier today, did they ever ship? Same sign up page and inactive twitter for years.
- tonydiv 7y ago
  Seem to be still pushing some small UX features but that's all I know
- corobo 7y ago
  Built by the creator of Gmail so it'll probably be an invite/referral only thing for 5 years or so..

dredmorbius 7y ago

Mutt. In all seriousness. Kmail (or KDE's integrated PIM, Kontact), are GUI alternatives.