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Maybe because the real future is web apps and has been for more than a decade now.

by marcrosoft 7y ago

Apocryphon 7y ago
In the same way Linux is perpetually the future of desktop?
- carlosdp 7y ago
  Not really comparable, the web already has massive adoption, just needs to get better at high-performance client apps. And with WebAssembly + PWAs, and WebGPU in development, it's getting very close.
  - bigiain 7y ago
    "Linux already has massive adoption in the server and embedded spaces, just needs to get better at office-related client apps"... 2019, celebrating the eleventh consecutive "This is the Year of Linux on the desktop"...
cududa 7y ago
If it’s been the future for a decade, and that future isn’t here ... is it really the future of applications?
- narag 7y ago
  I would replace "the future" with saying that it's much more profitable for vendors and less convenient for users, so it's being adopted as fast as vendors can overcome users's resistance.
  - marcrosoft 7y ago
    It is actually much more convenient for users. They can switch computers/phone/OSes and have the same experience. The same is not true with native apps.
    - scarface74 7y ago
      I don’t want the same experience cross platforms. I don’t want the “Mac experience” when I am using Windows (see iTunes) or the “Windows experience” when I am using a Mac (old versions of Office).
      - marcrosoft 7y ago
        No, what you want is the same experience. Which is what the web gives you. What you are describing is native apps trying to replicate the same experience and failing because they are native. Edit: Native apps require more maintenance which adds to the delta in experience. If a single app is created (web) there is no delta.
        cududa 7y ago
        Are you seriously trying to tell someone what they want, when they clearly and rationally laid out specifically what they actually want?
    - narag 7y ago
      It's more convenient for some applications, but it's not the case yet for many applications. Evolution of browsers will probably favour web platform for everything except the more close-to-the-metal ones.
- marcrosoft 7y ago
  Yup, you used a web app to post your comment. Apple dropped Flash for native web HTML5. Is the future really to develop an app that can only run in 4 places (Windows, mac, ios, and android) dominated by three major companies?
  - cududa 7y ago
    Yes
SomeOldThrow 7y ago
I keep hearing this but where are all the good web apps?

Maybe because the real future is web apps and has been for more than a decade now.

Apocryphon 7y ago

In the same way Linux is perpetually the future of desktop?

carlosdp 7y ago
Not really comparable, the web already has massive adoption, just needs to get better at high-performance client apps. And with WebAssembly + PWAs, and WebGPU in development, it's getting very close.
- bigiain 7y ago
  "Linux already has massive adoption in the server and embedded spaces, just needs to get better at office-related client apps"... 2019, celebrating the eleventh consecutive "This is the Year of Linux on the desktop"...

cududa 7y ago

If it’s been the future for a decade, and that future isn’t here ... is it really the future of applications?

narag 7y ago
I would replace "the future" with saying that it's much more profitable for vendors and less convenient for users, so it's being adopted as fast as vendors can overcome users's resistance.
- marcrosoft 7y ago
  It is actually much more convenient for users. They can switch computers/phone/OSes and have the same experience. The same is not true with native apps.
  - scarface74 7y ago
    I don’t want the same experience cross platforms. I don’t want the “Mac experience” when I am using Windows (see iTunes) or the “Windows experience” when I am using a Mac (old versions of Office).
    - marcrosoft 7y ago
      No, what you want is the same experience. Which is what the web gives you. What you are describing is native apps trying to replicate the same experience and failing because they are native. Edit: Native apps require more maintenance which adds to the delta in experience. If a single app is created (web) there is no delta.
      - cududa 7y ago
        Are you seriously trying to tell someone what they want, when they clearly and rationally laid out specifically what they actually want?
  - narag 7y ago
    It's more convenient for some applications, but it's not the case yet for many applications. Evolution of browsers will probably favour web platform for everything except the more close-to-the-metal ones.
marcrosoft 7y ago
Yup, you used a web app to post your comment. Apple dropped Flash for native web HTML5. Is the future really to develop an app that can only run in 4 places (Windows, mac, ios, and android) dominated by three major companies?
- cududa 7y ago
  Yes

SomeOldThrow 7y ago

I keep hearing this but where are all the good web apps?