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>Latinx There is no faster way to discredit your argument than using absurd language like latinx. I've yet to meet a latino person who referred to themselves a

>Latinx There is no faster way to discredit your argument than using absurd language like latinx. I've yet to meet a latino person who referred to themselves as anything else.

wutbrodo 7y ago
I find the obsession with nitpicking language on part of the ideological spectrum to be a little absurd too, but FWIW I've met quite a few latino/latinx people who identify as Latinx. Though that probably has to do with the extent that I've been steeped in a pretty intense ideological bubble for a very long time at this point (I moved to the Bay in college, before these kind of Bay Area norms around language started to spread so widely)
uponcoffee 7y ago
You seem to be the one that is out of touch: https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Latinx https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Latinx
- RandomBacon 7y ago
  I think this arguement about words is stupid. It doesn't matter which one of you is right or wrong. For what it's worth, I live in Houston (4th largest US city that has an enormous Latin American representation), and I have never heard the term "Latinx" before. Though now if I do, I now know what it means thanks to Hacker News.
- AbrahamParangi 7y ago
  Cursory look at google trends suggest that latinx is a relatively uncommon term and that the term latino is approx. 30x more popular (https://trends.google.com/trends/explore?geo=US&q=latino,latinx https://trends.google.com/trends/explore?geo=US&q=latino,lat...).
  - lanewinfield 7y ago
    Do you want to compare other words that used to be popular but are now offensive? Not to say "Latino" is offensive, but your argument doesn't really hold water.
    - AbrahamParangi 7y ago
      I'm supplying facts which support the view of reality in which "latino" is common and "latinx" is uncommon, not making an argument that people should act one way or another.
- notatoad 7y ago
  "The term is a neologism that has gained traction among advocacy groups intersectionally combining the identity politics of race and gender" I'm not quite sure that being not being up-to-date on the terminology favoured by advocacy groups intersectionally combining the identity politics of race and gender counts as "out of touch"
g_sch 7y ago
I'm interested (and somewhat taken aback) by the intensity of the reactions to this term. Maybe it's a generational/political thing? For my part, I know significantly more people who refer to themselves as "Latinx" than "Latino".
- malvosenior 7y ago
  People don't like it because it's a political term that doesn't exist for any reason other than to make a political statement. It's a modification of language around the core identity of a group of people, people who did not advocate for the term's usage and still resist it.
- eloff 7y ago
  Fwiw I lived ten years in Latin America, married a Latina, and have never even heard the term Latinx before. It's probably not common in Latin America.
  - friedman23 7y ago
    The term was created by white people.
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    - ribosometronome 7y ago
      Interesting! What were their names? Were those white people also of Latin American origin?
- eindiran 7y ago
  "Latinx" is more-or-less a rounding error compared to "Latino"/"Latina"[1], so having people insist that the far more common terms are incorrect (for a political reason) is what is driving the intensity of the reaction. I'm not saying the reaction is right or wrong, but afaict that's the reason people respond the way they do. If you know significantly more people who refer to themselves as "Latinx", I'd wager that you probably live in the ideological bubble surrounding a fairly liberal American city, but there is certainly a generational component: the term is much more commonly used by American Millenials than by anyone else. [1] https://trends.google.com/trends/explore?q=latinx,latino,latina https://trends.google.com/trends/explore?q=latinx,latino,lat...
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gamblor956 7y ago
I have only ever heard the term Latinx used in the context of the Latino/Latina LGBT community. Vida, (a show about gentrification and lesbians in the Boyle Heights neighborhood of LA) markets itself as a Latinx show, not as a Hispanic show, though the showrunner identifies as Latina...
mlevental 7y ago
"I've never seen it therefore it must be fake" rolls eyes https://mobile.twitter.com/hashtag/latinx?lang=en https://mobile.twitter.com/hashtag/latinx?lang=en
- bussierem 7y ago
  The top 2 tweets as of my comment are tweets that say "Latinx" and link to sources that say "Latino". I feel like maybe the points above that mention how "latinx" is the correct term according to people that _aren't_ Latino are probably correct.
  - mlevental 7y ago
    The top tweet is from a Hispanic woman, third is from a Latin American organization, so is the fourth. Keep scrolling and there are even more Hispanic people using it. Maybe discovering the answer to this question requires more than just one screen's worth of research
coupdejarnac 7y ago
Is this a West coast thing? I have never heard latinx, and I spend a significant amount of time with my Latino soccer buddies. Perhaps it's because they are all first generation and not super interested in being PC.

>Latinx There is no faster way to discredit your argument than using absurd language like latinx. I've yet to meet a latino person who referred to themselves as anything else.

wutbrodo 7y ago

I find the obsession with nitpicking language on part of the ideological spectrum to be a little absurd too, but FWIW I've met quite a few latino/latinx people who identify as Latinx. Though that probably has to do with the extent that I've been steeped in a pretty intense ideological bubble for a very long time at this point (I moved to the Bay in college, before these kind of Bay Area norms around language started to spread so widely)

uponcoffee 7y ago

You seem to be the one that is out of touch: https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Latinx https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Latinx

RandomBacon 7y ago
I think this arguement about words is stupid. It doesn't matter which one of you is right or wrong. For what it's worth, I live in Houston (4th largest US city that has an enormous Latin American representation), and I have never heard the term "Latinx" before. Though now if I do, I now know what it means thanks to Hacker News.
AbrahamParangi 7y ago
Cursory look at google trends suggest that latinx is a relatively uncommon term and that the term latino is approx. 30x more popular (https://trends.google.com/trends/explore?geo=US&q=latino,latinx https://trends.google.com/trends/explore?geo=US&q=latino,lat...).
- lanewinfield 7y ago
  Do you want to compare other words that used to be popular but are now offensive? Not to say "Latino" is offensive, but your argument doesn't really hold water.
  - AbrahamParangi 7y ago
    I'm supplying facts which support the view of reality in which "latino" is common and "latinx" is uncommon, not making an argument that people should act one way or another.
notatoad 7y ago
"The term is a neologism that has gained traction among advocacy groups intersectionally combining the identity politics of race and gender" I'm not quite sure that being not being up-to-date on the terminology favoured by advocacy groups intersectionally combining the identity politics of race and gender counts as "out of touch"

g_sch 7y ago

I'm interested (and somewhat taken aback) by the intensity of the reactions to this term. Maybe it's a generational/political thing? For my part, I know significantly more people who refer to themselves as "Latinx" than "Latino".

malvosenior 7y ago
People don't like it because it's a political term that doesn't exist for any reason other than to make a political statement. It's a modification of language around the core identity of a group of people, people who did not advocate for the term's usage and still resist it.
eloff 7y ago
Fwiw I lived ten years in Latin America, married a Latina, and have never even heard the term Latinx before. It's probably not common in Latin America.
- friedman23 7y ago
  The term was created by white people.
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  - ribosometronome 7y ago
    Interesting! What were their names? Were those white people also of Latin American origin?
eindiran 7y ago
"Latinx" is more-or-less a rounding error compared to "Latino"/"Latina"[1], so having people insist that the far more common terms are incorrect (for a political reason) is what is driving the intensity of the reaction. I'm not saying the reaction is right or wrong, but afaict that's the reason people respond the way they do. If you know significantly more people who refer to themselves as "Latinx", I'd wager that you probably live in the ideological bubble surrounding a fairly liberal American city, but there is certainly a generational component: the term is much more commonly used by American Millenials than by anyone else. [1] https://trends.google.com/trends/explore?q=latinx,latino,latina https://trends.google.com/trends/explore?q=latinx,latino,lat...

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gamblor956 7y ago

I have only ever heard the term Latinx used in the context of the Latino/Latina LGBT community. Vida, (a show about gentrification and lesbians in the Boyle Heights neighborhood of LA) markets itself as a Latinx show, not as a Hispanic show, though the showrunner identifies as Latina...

mlevental 7y ago

"I've never seen it therefore it must be fake" rolls eyes https://mobile.twitter.com/hashtag/latinx?lang=en https://mobile.twitter.com/hashtag/latinx?lang=en

bussierem 7y ago
The top 2 tweets as of my comment are tweets that say "Latinx" and link to sources that say "Latino". I feel like maybe the points above that mention how "latinx" is the correct term according to people that _aren't_ Latino are probably correct.
- mlevental 7y ago
  The top tweet is from a Hispanic woman, third is from a Latin American organization, so is the fourth. Keep scrolling and there are even more Hispanic people using it. Maybe discovering the answer to this question requires more than just one screen's worth of research

coupdejarnac 7y ago

Is this a West coast thing? I have never heard latinx, and I spend a significant amount of time with my Latino soccer buddies. Perhaps it's because they are all first generation and not super interested in being PC.