Thanks for the information and i agree with your last point about freedom. But an adult shouldn't have the freedom to endanger a ten year old's life. On the oth

Thanks for the information and i agree with your last point about freedom. But an adult shouldn't have the freedom to endanger a ten year old's life. On the other hand, if El Capitan has been tamed to the extent that the climbing of it has become safe and routine then I think there's an argument for putting the climbing of it to bed and instead preserving it in as pristine a state as possible.