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Schools make sense and most schools do this (possibly with exemptions), but how would people screen each others' vaccination status in a general public place?

toss1 7y ago
Exactly the point! This kind of screening is largely impractical, short of tattooing anti-vaxxers' foreheads with a large red strikethru "V". So, it needs to be simply a requirement. If you don't have either the vaccinations or a bona-fide medical excuse, you are denied all govt services & benefits until you do. No school, driver's license, passport, benefits, etc. The fact that this is still in a debate at all is an enormous normalcy bias error. Some of the origins are due to stupidity, but much of the growth of the "controversy" is the result of a deliberate and sustained attack on the west by Russia. Here's just two articles, scientific & news sources: https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC6137759/ https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC6137759/ https://foreignpolicy.com/2019/04/09/in-the-united-states-russian-trolls-are-peddling-measles-disinformation-on-twitter/ https://foreignpolicy.com/2019/04/09/in-the-united-states-ru... Damn cheap way to undermine your enemy -- directly attack your target's public health for the cost of a few bots & trolls.
- conanbatt 7y ago
  > So, it needs to be simply a requirement. If you don't have either the vaccinations or a bona-fide medical excuse, you are denied all govt services & benefits until you do. No school, driver's license, passport, benefits, etc. And no taxes? Where do I sign up.
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  - toss1 7y ago
    No. If anything, it should be double taxes, since the anti-vaxxers definitely create much higher costs for society in general and for the health system & govt in particular. So, yes, a big surcharge would be a good idea... maybe they could use part of it to pay for the red tattoos ;-)
    - conanbatt 7y ago
      You mean collect taxes and give no benefits? Is that..slavery?
      - zentiggr 7y ago
        That is a societal level ticket for "disturbing the peace"
      - toss1 7y ago
        No, they still get all the collective benefits of the govt -- common defense by the most powerful armed forces ever, foreign & monetary policy, road & economic system, use of the world' primary reserve currency, and many other benefits. I'd even suggest that we give them a passport for free if they stayed away until they decided to get vaccinated.

toss1 7y ago

Exactly the point! This kind of screening is largely impractical, short of tattooing anti-vaxxers' foreheads with a large red strikethru "V". So, it needs to be simply a requirement. If you don't have either the vaccinations or a bona-fide medical excuse, you are denied all govt services & benefits until you do. No school, driver's license, passport, benefits, etc. The fact that this is still in a debate at all is an enormous normalcy bias error. Some of the origins are due to stupidity, but much of the growth of the "controversy" is the result of a deliberate and sustained attack on the west by Russia. Here's just two articles, scientific & news sources: https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC6137759/ https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC6137759/ https://foreignpolicy.com/2019/04/09/in-the-united-states-russian-trolls-are-peddling-measles-disinformation-on-twitter/ https://foreignpolicy.com/2019/04/09/in-the-united-states-ru... Damn cheap way to undermine your enemy -- directly attack your target's public health for the cost of a few bots & trolls.

conanbatt 7y ago
> So, it needs to be simply a requirement. If you don't have either the vaccinations or a bona-fide medical excuse, you are denied all govt services & benefits until you do. No school, driver's license, passport, benefits, etc. And no taxes? Where do I sign up.
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- toss1 7y ago
  No. If anything, it should be double taxes, since the anti-vaxxers definitely create much higher costs for society in general and for the health system & govt in particular. So, yes, a big surcharge would be a good idea... maybe they could use part of it to pay for the red tattoos ;-)
  - conanbatt 7y ago
    You mean collect taxes and give no benefits? Is that..slavery?
    - zentiggr 7y ago
      That is a societal level ticket for "disturbing the peace"
    - toss1 7y ago
      No, they still get all the collective benefits of the govt -- common defense by the most powerful armed forces ever, foreign & monetary policy, road & economic system, use of the world' primary reserve currency, and many other benefits. I'd even suggest that we give them a passport for free if they stayed away until they decided to get vaccinated.