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"...I love my Nexus One and was hesitant to replace it but the Nexus S looks like the exact same phone, just better..." Same phone? Really? I was really look

by 51Cards 16y ago

"...I love my Nexus One and was hesitant to replace it but the Nexus S looks like the exact same phone, just better..." Same phone? Really? I was really looking forward to the S to replace my N1 but no matter how I slice it I keep coming up disappointed on the hardware. No SD slot, no trackball/touch-pad, no notification light, all items I use regularly. I really want to continue the pure Google experience and immediate updates but as of today I prefer the Desire Z specs over this phone by a significant margin. I am feeling really torn so I'm going to keep the N1 for awhile I guess.

hugh3 16y ago
I was really looking forward to the S to replace my N1 Why were you really looking forward to replacing a phone that still works with a new one that's basically the same?
- 51Cards 16y ago
  Primarily so I could be rid of two the main problems with the N1: - hardware flaw in the touchscreen sensor - 196 Megs internal application storage is pitifully small I also hoped for: - more speed - better battery life from a newer generation screen / CPU - all the new toys :)
  - blinkingled 16y ago
    Touchscreen one is an annoyance, yes. But the 196Mb app storage is fixable - Cyanogenmod 6.1 is the way to go. I am running it on my N1 and it gives you the ability to move any app to the SD card and it all just works. You might even get Gingerbread update from CM earlier than Google/Stock Firmware <edit> Well not really CM requires the new hardware drivers from Gingerbread that are not in AOSP - so Google will have to release Gingerbread for N1</edit>.
  - middus 16y ago
    Regarding the 196MBs: what's the downside of App2SD?
    - 51Cards 16y ago
      No real downside other than the fact that apps don't move entirely to SD. All shared libraries must stay in the main storage as well as application parts tagged 'secure' from my understanding. I have my N1 rooted and use App2SD but still sit at about 32Meg free with everything possible moved. At 19 Meg (10%) the phone goes into 'low memory' warning so unless I keep caches cleared I'm always not too far away from being out of space. Gigabytes of internal storage would be a dream apps wise, and will probably be the tipping factor in when I let my N1 go even if I have to loose other things.
      - ins0mniac 16y ago
        Not sure if you have looked at Data2SD. Allows 2GB (max) for /data More info @ http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=3981637&postcount=1 http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=3981637&p... http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=852219 http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=852219 (specific for HTC Desire)
        51Cards 16y ago
        This is brilliant, thank you for the link. I think you just saved my N1 from an early retirement. I may wait until 2.3 comes down the pipe (soon? please Google?) then do it then. I would hate to see it mess up the OS upgrade. Thank you again.
drivebyacct2 16y ago
I am surprised at the feature regression yet, my Droid has no trackpad, I have never used the D-Pad, the same SD card has been in my phone for a year and then some. The notification light is a bummer though.
- 51Cards 16y ago
  i have to travel a lot and I load up the N1 with Movies, etc. for entertainment on the road. 16 Gig internal is nice but it's just not quite enough, not to mention to have to load it via USB (I pop the card out when I want to put on large media). Even 8 Gig internal with an 32Gig capable SD slot would have been a dream.
  - drivebyacct2 16y ago
    Yeah, I don't mean to encourage removing features like that, I just suspect that most users don't mind or care and more importantly, I'm willing to sacrifice a lot for some good ole pure AOSP with an unlocked bootloader.
    - 51Cards 16y ago
      Yes, I suspect you're right. When I get a chance I will put one in my hand and play with it for sure. I just really hoped the Nexus series of phones would always imply 'no compromise / this is the new high bar'.
- mr_november 16y ago
  An app like NoLED is more than a decent stand-in for the no notification light issue. It has solved the problem on my galaxy s quite well.
jackolas 16y ago
No notification light? thats one of my favorite features on my Motorola Droid.
- bmelton 16y ago
  It was my absolutely least favorite aspect of using an iPhone, when I did. It seems a trivial reason to so dramatically prefer the Android devices I've had, but trivial or not, I sure did miss it when I didn't have it.
  - pmcginn 16y ago
    Having a useful notification light is one of the few things I miss about my old BB. I would like to know, at a glance, that my Incredible is both charging and has a new message.

by 51Cards 16y ago

hugh3 16y ago

I was really looking forward to the S to replace my N1 Why were you really looking forward to replacing a phone that still works with a new one that's basically the same?

51Cards 16y ago
Primarily so I could be rid of two the main problems with the N1: - hardware flaw in the touchscreen sensor - 196 Megs internal application storage is pitifully small I also hoped for: - more speed - better battery life from a newer generation screen / CPU - all the new toys :)
- blinkingled 16y ago
  Touchscreen one is an annoyance, yes. But the 196Mb app storage is fixable - Cyanogenmod 6.1 is the way to go. I am running it on my N1 and it gives you the ability to move any app to the SD card and it all just works. You might even get Gingerbread update from CM earlier than Google/Stock Firmware <edit> Well not really CM requires the new hardware drivers from Gingerbread that are not in AOSP - so Google will have to release Gingerbread for N1</edit>.
- middus 16y ago
  Regarding the 196MBs: what's the downside of App2SD?
  - 51Cards 16y ago
    No real downside other than the fact that apps don't move entirely to SD. All shared libraries must stay in the main storage as well as application parts tagged 'secure' from my understanding. I have my N1 rooted and use App2SD but still sit at about 32Meg free with everything possible moved. At 19 Meg (10%) the phone goes into 'low memory' warning so unless I keep caches cleared I'm always not too far away from being out of space. Gigabytes of internal storage would be a dream apps wise, and will probably be the tipping factor in when I let my N1 go even if I have to loose other things.
    - ins0mniac 16y ago
      Not sure if you have looked at Data2SD. Allows 2GB (max) for /data More info @ http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=3981637&postcount=1 http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=3981637&p... http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=852219 http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=852219 (specific for HTC Desire)
      - 51Cards 16y ago
        This is brilliant, thank you for the link. I think you just saved my N1 from an early retirement. I may wait until 2.3 comes down the pipe (soon? please Google?) then do it then. I would hate to see it mess up the OS upgrade. Thank you again.

drivebyacct2 16y ago

I am surprised at the feature regression yet, my Droid has no trackpad, I have never used the D-Pad, the same SD card has been in my phone for a year and then some. The notification light is a bummer though.

51Cards 16y ago
i have to travel a lot and I load up the N1 with Movies, etc. for entertainment on the road. 16 Gig internal is nice but it's just not quite enough, not to mention to have to load it via USB (I pop the card out when I want to put on large media). Even 8 Gig internal with an 32Gig capable SD slot would have been a dream.
- drivebyacct2 16y ago
  Yeah, I don't mean to encourage removing features like that, I just suspect that most users don't mind or care and more importantly, I'm willing to sacrifice a lot for some good ole pure AOSP with an unlocked bootloader.
  - 51Cards 16y ago
    Yes, I suspect you're right. When I get a chance I will put one in my hand and play with it for sure. I just really hoped the Nexus series of phones would always imply 'no compromise / this is the new high bar'.
mr_november 16y ago
An app like NoLED is more than a decent stand-in for the no notification light issue. It has solved the problem on my galaxy s quite well.

jackolas 16y ago

No notification light? thats one of my favorite features on my Motorola Droid.

bmelton 16y ago
It was my absolutely least favorite aspect of using an iPhone, when I did. It seems a trivial reason to so dramatically prefer the Android devices I've had, but trivial or not, I sure did miss it when I didn't have it.
- pmcginn 16y ago
  Having a useful notification light is one of the few things I miss about my old BB. I would like to know, at a glance, that my Incredible is both charging and has a new message.