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Isn't that something that should be resolved at the social or government level? As opposed to Walmart? The market is good at some things, and that which the mar

Isn't that something that should be resolved at the social or government level? As opposed to Walmart? The market is good at some things, and that which the market does not naturally provide... we morally expect/beg for? Doesn't a situation like this ask for social or government intervention?

bumby 7y ago
It potentially could be solved at the governmental level, but it could also be addressed at the individual level. Each probably has it's own tradeoffs. For example, governments tend to have sweeping solutions that ignore ground-truth information (e.g., the disparity of cost-of-living with a federally mandated minimum wage). On the other hand, individuals may not have the bandwidth to absorb all the information (e.g., I have no idea about any immoral conditions that lead to much of the consumer items I buy). I assume there's a balance between the two. My personality tends to advocate personal responsibility over looking for someone else to solve the problems, when possible.
fuzz4lyfe 7y ago
It can't be resolved at that level as far as I can see it. Even in planned economies individuals found ways to enrich themselves. My view is that any programs that are seen to imply that a employer is responsible for it's employees is harmful. It should be made clear to everyone that the employer/employee relationship isn't too different from the used car dealer/customer relationship in that everyone is looking to extract maximum value from the exchange. These people aren't your family and will take food out of your children's mouth without hesitation, as such make the moves that are best for you and don't work too hard if hard work goes unrewarded. This was the critical realization that took me from poverty to the middle class. Smile, pretend to be a bit naïve, extract what you need from the company (résumé fodder, etc) and move on.
specialist 7y ago
Government imposed open market sanity saved the domestic oil industry. I think about this every time someone advocates laissez faire (aka Freedom Markets™, corporatism). Every game needs referees, a ruling body.
TremendousJudge 7y ago
Meditations on Moloch https://slatestarcodex.com/2014/07/30/meditations-on-moloch/ https://slatestarcodex.com/2014/07/30/meditations-on-moloch/
xvector 7y ago
Social responsibility is a thing.

bumby 7y ago

It potentially could be solved at the governmental level, but it could also be addressed at the individual level. Each probably has it's own tradeoffs. For example, governments tend to have sweeping solutions that ignore ground-truth information (e.g., the disparity of cost-of-living with a federally mandated minimum wage). On the other hand, individuals may not have the bandwidth to absorb all the information (e.g., I have no idea about any immoral conditions that lead to much of the consumer items I buy). I assume there's a balance between the two. My personality tends to advocate personal responsibility over looking for someone else to solve the problems, when possible.

fuzz4lyfe 7y ago

It can't be resolved at that level as far as I can see it. Even in planned economies individuals found ways to enrich themselves. My view is that any programs that are seen to imply that a employer is responsible for it's employees is harmful. It should be made clear to everyone that the employer/employee relationship isn't too different from the used car dealer/customer relationship in that everyone is looking to extract maximum value from the exchange. These people aren't your family and will take food out of your children's mouth without hesitation, as such make the moves that are best for you and don't work too hard if hard work goes unrewarded. This was the critical realization that took me from poverty to the middle class. Smile, pretend to be a bit naïve, extract what you need from the company (résumé fodder, etc) and move on.

specialist 7y ago

Government imposed open market sanity saved the domestic oil industry. I think about this every time someone advocates laissez faire (aka Freedom Markets™, corporatism). Every game needs referees, a ruling body.

TremendousJudge 7y ago

Meditations on Moloch https://slatestarcodex.com/2014/07/30/meditations-on-moloch/ https://slatestarcodex.com/2014/07/30/meditations-on-moloch/

xvector 7y ago

Social responsibility is a thing.