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I don't see how an average person could be expected to witness some of the things mentioned in the article. I didn't have time to read the entire article, but d

by Pigo 7y ago

I don't see how an average person could be expected to witness some of the things mentioned in the article. I didn't have time to read the entire article, but do they have counselors on staff or something? That one paragraph about organs was enough to ruin my day, and it was just text. I'm surprised such a "rash of videos" wasn't in the news somewhere.

arethuza 7y ago
From the article: He sought out the on-site counselor for support, but found him unhelpful. “He just flat-out told me: ‘I don’t really know how to help you guys,’”
- colpabar 7y ago
  So the counselors were probably an afterthought. I'd even bet the decision was made not as a way to keep the moderators from going insane, but to protect the company's image.
  - enraged_camel 7y ago
    I mean, a counselor can only do so much in this type of situation, since the patient is not in a position to remove the negative stimuli from their lives.
ceejayoz 7y ago
> That one paragraph about organs was enough to ruin my day, and it was just text. I'm surprised such a "rash of videos" wasn't in the news somewhere. I'm left wondering if it was a clip from a horror movie or something. Shitty to see, but not necessarily newsworthy like "live children chopped up for organs" would be.
- antisemiotic 7y ago
  No need to be left wondering. While I'm not sure these are the videos mentioned, it's not hard to find some just by googling for it. Or maybe don't, I wish I didn't.
  - ceejayoz 7y ago
    I don't doubt you can find all sorts of horrifying video. I feel like I'd have seen media reports of widely-shared videos featuring live, conscious kids being vivisected in order to harvest their organs.
    - Pigo 7y ago
      It really seems important to know whether the video is real or a horror movie.
      - AlexandrB 7y ago
        Not from a PTSD point of view. If these workers think it’s real, it’ll have the same psychological effect as the real thing.
    - dudul 7y ago
      Isn't the point of moderation/censorship to avoid having these videos widely-shared? These videos exist, they are fairly easy to find on specialized websites. Some are fake, but a lot are genuine. Videos showing executions during wars in Chechnya or in the middle east and such.
  - wingerlang 7y ago
    Looks like the article itself linked the video they mentioned - turns out they were not harvesting any organs in that particular video
thom 7y ago
I know a very well qualified woman who has previously worked with pschological trauma in the army amongst other organisations, who has recently been hired to work at Facebook in Ireland as part of what sounds like a sizeable team. So it seems like Facebook aren't entirely ignorant of their responsibility here, although they do seem massively behind the curve.
stronglikedan 7y ago
Update June 19th, 10:37AM ET: This article has been updated to reflect the fact that a video that purportedly depicted organ harvesting was determined to be false and misleading.
invalidOrTaken 7y ago
>I don't see how an average person could be expected to witness some of the things mentioned in the article. I'm no fan of Facebook, but in their defense, this is sort of the point.
- Barrin92 7y ago
  Well it still is their responsibility. It's like Dr Frankenstein letting the monster lose on the village and then going "hey guys well I sure don't know how to figure this stuff out". If the government, the military, academia, the police or anyone else would let their inventions lose on the world in the manner the private sector does and leaves it to us to figure out how to clean up the mess we'd call them insane and demand them to be shut down within a week.

by Pigo 7y ago

arethuza 7y ago

From the article: He sought out the on-site counselor for support, but found him unhelpful. “He just flat-out told me: ‘I don’t really know how to help you guys,’”

colpabar 7y ago
So the counselors were probably an afterthought. I'd even bet the decision was made not as a way to keep the moderators from going insane, but to protect the company's image.
- enraged_camel 7y ago
  I mean, a counselor can only do so much in this type of situation, since the patient is not in a position to remove the negative stimuli from their lives.

ceejayoz 7y ago

> That one paragraph about organs was enough to ruin my day, and it was just text. I'm surprised such a "rash of videos" wasn't in the news somewhere. I'm left wondering if it was a clip from a horror movie or something. Shitty to see, but not necessarily newsworthy like "live children chopped up for organs" would be.

antisemiotic 7y ago
No need to be left wondering. While I'm not sure these are the videos mentioned, it's not hard to find some just by googling for it. Or maybe don't, I wish I didn't.
- ceejayoz 7y ago
  I don't doubt you can find all sorts of horrifying video. I feel like I'd have seen media reports of widely-shared videos featuring live, conscious kids being vivisected in order to harvest their organs.
  - Pigo 7y ago
    It really seems important to know whether the video is real or a horror movie.
    - AlexandrB 7y ago
      Not from a PTSD point of view. If these workers think it’s real, it’ll have the same psychological effect as the real thing.
  - dudul 7y ago
    Isn't the point of moderation/censorship to avoid having these videos widely-shared? These videos exist, they are fairly easy to find on specialized websites. Some are fake, but a lot are genuine. Videos showing executions during wars in Chechnya or in the middle east and such.
- wingerlang 7y ago
  Looks like the article itself linked the video they mentioned - turns out they were not harvesting any organs in that particular video

thom 7y ago

I know a very well qualified woman who has previously worked with pschological trauma in the army amongst other organisations, who has recently been hired to work at Facebook in Ireland as part of what sounds like a sizeable team. So it seems like Facebook aren't entirely ignorant of their responsibility here, although they do seem massively behind the curve.

stronglikedan 7y ago

Update June 19th, 10:37AM ET: This article has been updated to reflect the fact that a video that purportedly depicted organ harvesting was determined to be false and misleading.

invalidOrTaken 7y ago

>I don't see how an average person could be expected to witness some of the things mentioned in the article. I'm no fan of Facebook, but in their defense, this is sort of the point.

Barrin92 7y ago
Well it still is their responsibility. It's like Dr Frankenstein letting the monster lose on the village and then going "hey guys well I sure don't know how to figure this stuff out". If the government, the military, academia, the police or anyone else would let their inventions lose on the world in the manner the private sector does and leaves it to us to figure out how to clean up the mess we'd call them insane and demand them to be shut down within a week.