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You don’t need a study to know genetics play a major role, in fact the only role elite athletes would be elite athletes regardless of the sport they play which

You don’t need a study to know genetics play a major role, in fact the only role elite athletes would be elite athletes regardless of the sport they play which is why the US has more football and basketball players than soccer and rugby it’s not because Germany and Australia have better genetics for the latter than the former but because the same elite athletes choose sports based on cultural and environmental factors. You can’t classify people based on genetics we don’t have enough information and at that point it’s going to be boring might as well give the gold to the one with the best genes and be done with it. However if you take the top 0.1% of males and the top 0.1% of females of even further 0.001% it’s still not a competition. Heck the world record for women’s 100m which likely will never be broken as it was achieved with both doping and a timer screw up isn’t enough to pass the qualifiers to even compete in the 100m men’s event.

belorn 7y ago
I find it pretty boring that 41 percent of skiers that won medals between 2001–2010 had blood values that only has a probability of happening in 1 per 10000. It is basically theater where the audience is told to ignore that aspect. Maybe in 100m the effect is smaller but I do not know who would win a marathon between a top 0.1% woman that has blood levels close or above doping levels vs a top 0.1% man who has average blood. As research say, the effect from blood doping is more noticeable in long distance endurance sports which a 100m dash is not. We do have some understanding on what genetic factors give a performance benefit in sports. Weight, height, blood, hormones, and so on. Gender is just a fuzzy proxy. People who advocate for better classifiers is against a fuzzy proxy when current science can produce better competition where the result is less dictated from the start. I theory, such competition is more fair, healthy, and more interesting to watch.
- dogma1138 7y ago
  It’s pretty simple elite athletes already are a one in 10^the_power_of_whatever it’s all about gaming the system and gaming the game beyond that. Better suits, better shoes, high altitude training, pressure chambers, “supplements” these are all in play. If you aren’t in the top 0.1% or even rarer than that you ain’t gonna win any Olympic medals. Take Phelps for example the guy is a genetic phenom he produces almost no lactic acid, he is double jointed which allows him to swim butterfly like no other, his proportions are utterly fucked up with having a longer torso with stubby legs, a longer wingspan than his height and huge flipper feet. His mom might as well had gotten knocked up by a dolphin considering how near perfect he is for swimming.

belorn 7y ago

I find it pretty boring that 41 percent of skiers that won medals between 2001–2010 had blood values that only has a probability of happening in 1 per 10000. It is basically theater where the audience is told to ignore that aspect. Maybe in 100m the effect is smaller but I do not know who would win a marathon between a top 0.1% woman that has blood levels close or above doping levels vs a top 0.1% man who has average blood. As research say, the effect from blood doping is more noticeable in long distance endurance sports which a 100m dash is not. We do have some understanding on what genetic factors give a performance benefit in sports. Weight, height, blood, hormones, and so on. Gender is just a fuzzy proxy. People who advocate for better classifiers is against a fuzzy proxy when current science can produce better competition where the result is less dictated from the start. I theory, such competition is more fair, healthy, and more interesting to watch.

dogma1138 7y ago
It’s pretty simple elite athletes already are a one in 10^the_power_of_whatever it’s all about gaming the system and gaming the game beyond that. Better suits, better shoes, high altitude training, pressure chambers, “supplements” these are all in play. If you aren’t in the top 0.1% or even rarer than that you ain’t gonna win any Olympic medals. Take Phelps for example the guy is a genetic phenom he produces almost no lactic acid, he is double jointed which allows him to swim butterfly like no other, his proportions are utterly fucked up with having a longer torso with stubby legs, a longer wingspan than his height and huge flipper feet. His mom might as well had gotten knocked up by a dolphin considering how near perfect he is for swimming.