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For those who are interested, this reply all goes into the effects of backpage's closure on sex workers. https://gimletmedia.com/shows/reply-all/o2ho97/119-no-

For those who are interested, this reply all goes into the effects of backpage's closure on sex workers. https://gimletmedia.com/shows/reply-all/o2ho97/119-no-more-safe-harbor https://gimletmedia.com/shows/reply-all/o2ho97/119-no-more-s...

scarface74 7y ago
I’ve listened to the episode before, but after reading the Wired article and seeing the comments here, the Reply All episode now feels very one sided. I don’t remember them mentioning the underage aspect.
- JamesBarney 7y ago
  Yeah but I also don't think the question "is Carl Ferrer a scumbag?" and "was the closing of Backpage good for sex workers and at risk youth" have to have the same answer. The wired article talks about culpability and most focuses on the first question where as the reply all seemed to exclusively focus on the second.
  - scarface74 7y ago
    There are two parts to your second question. Was Backpage good for adult sex workers. Yes. Also, I don’t think prostitution between consenting adults should be illegal. Did Backpage facilitate child trafficking- Yes. Anything that makes that harder is a win. Backpage should have worked with police to help catch the adults who were selling kids for sex. I haven’t heard about any of the well known porn sites getting in trouble for kiddy porn. So obviously it is possible to run an adult oriented site without exploiting kids.
    - JamesBarney 7y ago
      From the little I've researched into it, it seems like there is more teen prostitution that is due to coercion from circumstance as opposed to force. Basically kids who ran away from or don't have a home and are trying to survive as opposed to trafficking at gun point.(which has been incredibly hard to find numbers for). And it seems like backpage made it safer for the former and but increased the risk of the latter. Here's the wikipedia page that goes into some details. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sex_trafficking_in_the_United_States#Commercial_sexual_exploitation_of_children https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sex_trafficking_in_the_United_...
      - scarface74 7y ago
        I left off something Backpage should have both helped police catch adults pumping out kids and worked with agencies to help the kids who were involved with prostitution whether they were forced or not.

scarface74 7y ago

I’ve listened to the episode before, but after reading the Wired article and seeing the comments here, the Reply All episode now feels very one sided. I don’t remember them mentioning the underage aspect.

JamesBarney 7y ago
Yeah but I also don't think the question "is Carl Ferrer a scumbag?" and "was the closing of Backpage good for sex workers and at risk youth" have to have the same answer. The wired article talks about culpability and most focuses on the first question where as the reply all seemed to exclusively focus on the second.
- scarface74 7y ago
  There are two parts to your second question. Was Backpage good for adult sex workers. Yes. Also, I don’t think prostitution between consenting adults should be illegal. Did Backpage facilitate child trafficking- Yes. Anything that makes that harder is a win. Backpage should have worked with police to help catch the adults who were selling kids for sex. I haven’t heard about any of the well known porn sites getting in trouble for kiddy porn. So obviously it is possible to run an adult oriented site without exploiting kids.
  - JamesBarney 7y ago
    From the little I've researched into it, it seems like there is more teen prostitution that is due to coercion from circumstance as opposed to force. Basically kids who ran away from or don't have a home and are trying to survive as opposed to trafficking at gun point.(which has been incredibly hard to find numbers for). And it seems like backpage made it safer for the former and but increased the risk of the latter. Here's the wikipedia page that goes into some details. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sex_trafficking_in_the_United_States#Commercial_sexual_exploitation_of_children https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sex_trafficking_in_the_United_...
    - scarface74 7y ago
      I left off something Backpage should have both helped police catch adults pumping out kids and worked with agencies to help the kids who were involved with prostitution whether they were forced or not.