> So true. It has happened to me so often - actually at most brown-field projects - that when I get onboarded, someone is telling me in which bad state this and

> So true. It has happened to me so often - actually at most brown-field projects - that when I get onboarded, someone is telling me in which bad state this and that is, even how bad this and that person is supposed to be. I certainly don't want to encourage any sort of toxicity like this. I will say, however, that I recently started a new job. People haven't been particularly welcoming so far but I finally managed to bond with someone over a discussion of the skill gap that exists between some of the employees and the lack of quality code produced by a few of the stubborn veterans. It wasn't just a bonding experience either. I was able to learn more about the nature of the organization and how I can help to improve things in the future. It also had a calming effect because I was originally pretty intimidated by some of these veterans but now I know they're just flawed humans like the rest of us.