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Canada, Siberia.....both of these areas have been relatively untouched/unexploited due to the permafrost issue and generally inhospitable weather. But they repr

Canada, Siberia.....both of these areas have been relatively untouched/unexploited due to the permafrost issue and generally inhospitable weather. But they represent a HUGE portion of the global land area.... So why aren't we looking at climate change as opening up vast tracts of the northern hemisphere to settlement and exploitation?

pas 7y ago
https://www.wikipedia.org/wiki/Clathrate_gun_hypothesis https://www.wikipedia.org/wiki/Clathrate_gun_hypothesis
UnFleshedOne 7y ago
I'm sure there is a lot of land under permafrost, but make sure you are not unduly impressed by how it looks like on a mercator projection.
- CapricornNoble 7y ago
  Canada's three federal territories (Yukon, Nanuvut, Northwest Territory) have a total land area of 3,535,263 km^2 That's about 3x Texas + California combined. That's not even counting the northern half (give or take) of Canada's other provinces. Russia's Sakha Republic is ~3 million km2 by itself. If Sakha were a country of its own, it would still be in the Top10 by area (#8), just below India. It's not just how they look on a map, these are potentially hugely underutilized tracts of land. All I'm saying is instead of the constant doom-and-gloom prognostications, let's figure out how we can maximize the efficient utilization of this land that MIGHT actually benefit from improved accessibility under warmer conditions.
ryanobjc 7y ago
Because the land sucks. It just sucks. Tundra when thawed isn't some magical land. It's all swamp basically. GOOD LUCK with 100' deep bogs all over the place!
- CapricornNoble 7y ago
  If we are facing something like potentially billions of human beings losing their habitable regions near the equator, shouldn't someone be busy sketching out a plan on the costs and requirements of draining swaps to the tune of several million kilometers of land? So we can at least analyze our options, just in case?

pas 7y ago

https://www.wikipedia.org/wiki/Clathrate_gun_hypothesis https://www.wikipedia.org/wiki/Clathrate_gun_hypothesis

UnFleshedOne 7y ago

I'm sure there is a lot of land under permafrost, but make sure you are not unduly impressed by how it looks like on a mercator projection.

CapricornNoble 7y ago
Canada's three federal territories (Yukon, Nanuvut, Northwest Territory) have a total land area of 3,535,263 km^2 That's about 3x Texas + California combined. That's not even counting the northern half (give or take) of Canada's other provinces. Russia's Sakha Republic is ~3 million km2 by itself. If Sakha were a country of its own, it would still be in the Top10 by area (#8), just below India. It's not just how they look on a map, these are potentially hugely underutilized tracts of land. All I'm saying is instead of the constant doom-and-gloom prognostications, let's figure out how we can maximize the efficient utilization of this land that MIGHT actually benefit from improved accessibility under warmer conditions.

ryanobjc 7y ago

Because the land sucks. It just sucks. Tundra when thawed isn't some magical land. It's all swamp basically. GOOD LUCK with 100' deep bogs all over the place!

CapricornNoble 7y ago
If we are facing something like potentially billions of human beings losing their habitable regions near the equator, shouldn't someone be busy sketching out a plan on the costs and requirements of draining swaps to the tune of several million kilometers of land? So we can at least analyze our options, just in case?