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No it is an indication that people are cheap and a person who bought a apartment as an investment now makes 30-60€ a night vs about 600 a month. There is a reas

by bpfrh 7y ago

No it is an indication that people are cheap and a person who bought a apartment as an investment now makes 30-60€ a night vs about 600 a month. There is a reason hotels are expensive. Airbnb does the same as uber. They start a business with either exploits a loophole or is illegal. Btw. at least in austria, if you want to rent your apartment on such a plattform you have to clear it with everyone who lives in that house. Of course nobody does that and of course the plattforms don't verify that, because they are "just a connecting plattform, we don't give any warranty but of course we get millions of of this"

flanbiscuit 7y ago
> if you want to rent your apartment on such a plattform you have to clear it with everyone who lives in that house. I love this idea. My friend currently lives in a building in Brooklyn where a person rents out rooms in his apartment on AirBnB and it's been nothing but an annoyance since day one. I'm glad NYC has put some restrictions on AirBnB .
- jkachmar 7y ago
  Chiming in as an NYC resident: I'm _extremely_ grateful that my current lease, as well as the upcoming one that I hope to sign if my application is approved, explicitly spells out the penalties for renting out apartments on Airbnb as a fee equivalent to 2 months rent immediately applied to the tenant. It's been a massive improvement to not have to deal with the externalities that come from sharing a building with Airbnb guests.
asokoloski 7y ago
Yes, there's a big difference between someone who rents out their apartment using Airbnb because they're away half the year, or has a spare room that they rent out, and someone who buys an entire building of 20 apartments and turns it into a hotel in all but name, skirting around all the consumer protections and regulations that have been put into place around hotels. You can argue that the regulation of hotel-style Airbnb use is too lenient, or the regulation on real hotels is too onerous, but I don't know of any good argument that they should be treated differently. Sorting this out would either lead to reduced demand for apartments to use with Airbnb as it becomes less attractive to large-scale landlords, or lead to greater demand of land for hotel usage.
- rlpb 7y ago
  > ...turns it into a hotel in all but name, skirting around all the consumer protections and regulations that have been put into place around hotels. Then the protections and regulations need to be adjusted to apply to businesses that operate like hotels, regardless of what they're called. There's fundamentally no reason such a hotel shouldn't be able to list their rooms on Airbnb - as long as customers aren't deceived, and the law is complied with.

by bpfrh 7y ago

flanbiscuit 7y ago

> if you want to rent your apartment on such a plattform you have to clear it with everyone who lives in that house. I love this idea. My friend currently lives in a building in Brooklyn where a person rents out rooms in his apartment on AirBnB and it's been nothing but an annoyance since day one. I'm glad NYC has put some restrictions on AirBnB .

jkachmar 7y ago
Chiming in as an NYC resident: I'm _extremely_ grateful that my current lease, as well as the upcoming one that I hope to sign if my application is approved, explicitly spells out the penalties for renting out apartments on Airbnb as a fee equivalent to 2 months rent immediately applied to the tenant. It's been a massive improvement to not have to deal with the externalities that come from sharing a building with Airbnb guests.

asokoloski 7y ago

Yes, there's a big difference between someone who rents out their apartment using Airbnb because they're away half the year, or has a spare room that they rent out, and someone who buys an entire building of 20 apartments and turns it into a hotel in all but name, skirting around all the consumer protections and regulations that have been put into place around hotels. You can argue that the regulation of hotel-style Airbnb use is too lenient, or the regulation on real hotels is too onerous, but I don't know of any good argument that they should be treated differently. Sorting this out would either lead to reduced demand for apartments to use with Airbnb as it becomes less attractive to large-scale landlords, or lead to greater demand of land for hotel usage.

rlpb 7y ago
> ...turns it into a hotel in all but name, skirting around all the consumer protections and regulations that have been put into place around hotels. Then the protections and regulations need to be adjusted to apply to businesses that operate like hotels, regardless of what they're called. There's fundamentally no reason such a hotel shouldn't be able to list their rooms on Airbnb - as long as customers aren't deceived, and the law is complied with.