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There isn't a pilot alive that isn't now fully aware of MCAS. Is there still a risk of MCAS causing another crash? I think the issue Boeing has now is credibil
by gregmac 7y ago
There isn't a pilot alive that isn't now fully aware of MCAS. Is there still a risk of MCAS causing another crash?
I think the issue Boeing has now is credibility, and the idea that there may be other MCAS-type issues lurking.
> we were told certain things such as ‘the companies that bought these planes, a lot of them, their countries didn’t require them to go through the test flight process that needed to happen.’ So we were told, ‘Hey, that’s not on us, that’s on them. We have this program, they’re suppose to take it, they don’t have to take it, that teaches them how to use this thing.’”
To me (as a layperson), it seems pretty obvious that Boeing specifically didn't mention MCAS in the flight crew operations manual because it would have meant extra training/certifications to fly the MAX, and there is a pretty clear profit motive to avoid that. By attempting to weasel out of this by saying things like "a pilot should never see the operation of MCAS in normal flying conditions" and "not a separate system to be trained on" [1], as well as the above paraphrasing, it doesn't exactly inspire confidence that Boeing is really putting passenger safety above all else, which is what I as a non-stockholding potential passenger would prefer.
[1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Maneuvering_Characteristics_Augmentation_System#Training https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Maneuvering_Characteristics_Au...
- Havoc 7y agoThe corporate culture seems to be a disaster across the board. They’re building planes transporting millions and you’ve got quotes saying workers no longer care and don’t know who their manager even is. That’s terrifying
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- nix0n 7y ago> Is there still a risk of MCAS causing another crash? Yes, because it's difficult to recover when MCAS goes wrong, even when you know about it. The pilots of Ethiopian 302 turned MCAS off and still crashed[0]. https://www.seattletimes.com/business/boeing-aerospace/boeings-emergency-procedure-for-737-max-may-have-failed-on-ethiopian-flight/ https://www.seattletimes.com/business/boeing-aerospace/boein...
- Someone1234 7y agoThey even tried reproducing it in simulators and added 1000 feet (relative to the Ethiopian aircraft) in order for the aircrew to use the recovery procedure (nose down pitch) to be able to move the horizontal stabilizers with just the handle. At low altitude, even with full knowledge, MCAS can make the aircraft unrecoverable. Aircraft should not fly without it being corrected. The Ethiopian crew maybe have had knowledge of MCAS.
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- matt-attack 7y ago> There isn’t a pilot alive... Wouldn’t you have said that after the first MAX crash? I mean if you’re a pilot and a 737 crashes, wouldn’t you be ALL OVER every detail of that crash?