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I think you mistook my post as supporting Facebook. I am not supporting Facebook nor do I trust central governments. I ultimately think the Swiss model of gover

I think you mistook my post as supporting Facebook. I am not supporting Facebook nor do I trust central governments. I ultimately think the Swiss model of governance where a lot of power is held in the region.

blackoil 7y ago
Brexit shows, citizens are not in the best position to take decisions on complex matters.
- komali2 7y ago
  Educated citizens may be. The problem is when politicians are allowed to lie through their teeth, as they did for brexit, and the educational system didn't prepare everyone to question the obviously absurd claims made by leavers.
- hesk 7y ago
  Brexit was a structural failure of British democracy, not an indictment on British voters.
  - CloudNetworking 7y ago
    How so?
    - telesilla 7y ago
      Multiple reasons, two I can think of right now that frustrate me at that the vote was held when students were on holiday (they needed to vote where they lived, so many students didn't vote who were 6-1 remainers). Secondly, lots of undemocratic goings-ons such as https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2018/sep/14/judges-brexit-vote-eu-referendum-vote-leave https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2018/sep/14/judges....
    - Juliate 7y ago
      Pro-Brexiters lying on the motives and outcomes? (Farage & Johnson not the least)
      - CloudNetworking 7y ago
        Like every party on every election at every level. Even though I share the outrage about it, we can't deny that lying is not uncommon.
        Juliate 7y ago
        That's not an acceptable standard for any public figure.
        CloudNetworking 7y ago
        And yet we accept it all the time.
- Droobfest 7y ago
  This is funny. A big reason people voted brexit is because they want more local governance instead of letting some bureaucrats in Brussels decide their fate. In the grand scheme of things brexit might be a bad idea, but you're effectively saying people shouldn't govern themselves because they would vote for more self-governance...
vanadium 7y ago
I would also not be in disfavor of a Federal Council as opposed to a singular executive. The Swiss have a good thing going.
flatline 7y ago
Interesting comment, given that the Libra group behind this currency is based out of Switzerland.
yeahitslikethat 7y ago
Person > family > neighborhood > community > region > state > nation > > world That's how decision making power should reign.

blackoil 7y ago

Brexit shows, citizens are not in the best position to take decisions on complex matters.

komali2 7y ago
Educated citizens may be. The problem is when politicians are allowed to lie through their teeth, as they did for brexit, and the educational system didn't prepare everyone to question the obviously absurd claims made by leavers.
hesk 7y ago
Brexit was a structural failure of British democracy, not an indictment on British voters.
- CloudNetworking 7y ago
  How so?
  - telesilla 7y ago
    Multiple reasons, two I can think of right now that frustrate me at that the vote was held when students were on holiday (they needed to vote where they lived, so many students didn't vote who were 6-1 remainers). Secondly, lots of undemocratic goings-ons such as https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2018/sep/14/judges-brexit-vote-eu-referendum-vote-leave https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2018/sep/14/judges....
  - Juliate 7y ago
    Pro-Brexiters lying on the motives and outcomes? (Farage & Johnson not the least)
    - CloudNetworking 7y ago
      Like every party on every election at every level. Even though I share the outrage about it, we can't deny that lying is not uncommon.
      - Juliate 7y ago
        That's not an acceptable standard for any public figure.
        CloudNetworking 7y ago
        And yet we accept it all the time.
Droobfest 7y ago
This is funny. A big reason people voted brexit is because they want more local governance instead of letting some bureaucrats in Brussels decide their fate. In the grand scheme of things brexit might be a bad idea, but you're effectively saying people shouldn't govern themselves because they would vote for more self-governance...

vanadium 7y ago

I would also not be in disfavor of a Federal Council as opposed to a singular executive. The Swiss have a good thing going.

flatline 7y ago

Interesting comment, given that the Libra group behind this currency is based out of Switzerland.

yeahitslikethat 7y ago

Person > family > neighborhood > community > region > state > nation > > world That's how decision making power should reign.