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i doubt most americans travel outside of state by car that often

by ptah 7y ago

dx034 7y ago
But they can, and taking that away scares many. It's easier in Ireland, the only way to drive farther is by taking a ferry where you could charge anyway. That means that you can effectively reach all of Ireland, most of the UK and most of France without any additional stops.
- usrusr 7y ago
  > by taking a ferry where you could charge anyway Charging off bunker fuel, ouch. How common is it for Irish cars to take a ferry?
  - patrickk 7y ago
    Anecdotally, the average person would do it once per year at most. More perhaps, if you have relatives in the UK and like to drive there with small children in tow.
  - pjc50 7y ago
    The next step may have to be electrification of the ferry. Orkney has actually been looking at an intermediate step, the "plug in" ferry while docked for the MV Hamnavoe: http://www.orkney.gov.uk/OIC-News/UKs-first-large-ship-to-shore-commercial-connection-to-be-installed-in-Stromness-as-part-of-green-power-project.htm http://www.orkney.gov.uk/OIC-News/UKs-first-large-ship-to-sh...
  - Brakenshire 7y ago
    Ferries in the Irish sea or the North sea can't use unrefined bunker oil because of the Emission Control Area: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Emission_Control_Area https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Emission_Control_Area
    - usrusr 7y ago
      Thanks, that is an answer I like to hear, just like the others (paraphrased "not often enough to make much of a difference"). Still, between the hectic on- and offloading and the acute awareness of fire hazards customary on ferries, I have a hard time imagining boatside car charging ever becoming mainstream.
- 24gttghh 7y ago
  It should scare them. We will have to give those journeys up anyways. It was only 100 years ago that such journey's even started being plausible for large numbers of people unless a train was involved. Society did just fine without the luxury of personal long-distance transport.
- ptah 7y ago
  climate change should scare them more

i doubt most americans travel outside of state by car that often

by ptah 7y ago

i doubt most americans travel outside of state by car that often

But they can, and taking that away scares many. It's easier in Ireland, the only way to drive farther is by taking a ferry where you could charge anyway. That means that you can effectively reach all of Ireland, most of the UK and most of France without any additional stops.

usrusr 7y ago
> by taking a ferry where you could charge anyway Charging off bunker fuel, ouch. How common is it for Irish cars to take a ferry?
- patrickk 7y ago
  Anecdotally, the average person would do it once per year at most. More perhaps, if you have relatives in the UK and like to drive there with small children in tow.
- pjc50 7y ago
  The next step may have to be electrification of the ferry. Orkney has actually been looking at an intermediate step, the "plug in" ferry while docked for the MV Hamnavoe: http://www.orkney.gov.uk/OIC-News/UKs-first-large-ship-to-shore-commercial-connection-to-be-installed-in-Stromness-as-part-of-green-power-project.htm http://www.orkney.gov.uk/OIC-News/UKs-first-large-ship-to-sh...
- Brakenshire 7y ago
  Ferries in the Irish sea or the North sea can't use unrefined bunker oil because of the Emission Control Area: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Emission_Control_Area https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Emission_Control_Area
  - usrusr 7y ago
    Thanks, that is an answer I like to hear, just like the others (paraphrased "not often enough to make much of a difference"). Still, between the hectic on- and offloading and the acute awareness of fire hazards customary on ferries, I have a hard time imagining boatside car charging ever becoming mainstream.
24gttghh 7y ago
It should scare them. We will have to give those journeys up anyways. It was only 100 years ago that such journey's even started being plausible for large numbers of people unless a train was involved. Society did just fine without the luxury of personal long-distance transport.
ptah 7y ago
climate change should scare them more