> I think we can agree that no one _needs_ a sport car for their 'livelihood' That's why I considered the "old clunker" case. But even the sports car part is d

> I think we can agree that no one _needs_ a sport car for their 'livelihood' That's why I considered the "old clunker" case. But even the sports car part is debatable somehow. Look around you now. How many of the things in your line of sight are actually needs, and how many are wants? How many things have changed inside each layer of Maslow's hierarchy of needs over the past half a century or more? Do you need HN? Imagine if someone told you it's going down because you can save xxx KWh. :) I agree that a sports car may be a step too far even for this line of thinking but the point stands.