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I spent 3 minutes searching: https://www.padmapper.com/apartments/36746960/3-bedroom-2-bath-apartment-at-3925-nelson-dr-palo-alto-ca-94306 https://www.padmappe
by borski 7y ago
I spent 3 minutes searching:
https://www.padmapper.com/apartments/36746960/3-bedroom-2-bath-apartment-at-3925-nelson-dr-palo-alto-ca-94306 https://www.padmapper.com/apartments/36746960/3-bedroom-2-ba...
https://www.padmapper.com/apartments/13951431/3-bedroom-2-bath-apartment-at-2062-rialto-ct-mountain-view-ca-94043 https://www.padmapper.com/apartments/13951431/3-bedroom-2-ba...
Point is: the trope of “nobody can live in the Bay Area on 125k net” is total bullshit, tired, and flat-out untrue. Is it harder than living on 125k elsewhere? Absolutely. Are you “poor” and unable to afford a great house? No, not at all.
There are plenty of great places.
- bradlys 7y ago> https://www.padmapper.com/apartments/36746960/3-bedroom-2-ba.. https://www.padmapper.com/apartments/36746960/3-bedroom-2-ba.... > https://www.padmapper.com/apartments/13951431/3-bedroom-2-ba.. https://www.padmapper.com/apartments/13951431/3-bedroom-2-ba.... These are apartments - not single family homes.
- borski 7y agoI mean, I’m not actually a realtor, but here’s a home for you: https://www.padmapper.com/apartments/35506914/3-bedroom-2-bath-apartment-at-251-chiquita-ave-mountain-view-ca-94041 https://www.padmapper.com/apartments/35506914/3-bedroom-2-ba... My search space was Mountain View, so expand and you’ll find more. Point is there are plenty of options, you just have to look for them. And, to be fair, I only searched PadMapper, which is an apartment rental website, so my results weren’t even focused on SFH.
- bradlys 7y ago> https://www.padmapper.com/apartments/35506914/3-bedroom-2-ba.. https://www.padmapper.com/apartments/35506914/3-bedroom-2-ba.... Doesn't have AC. Looks like a pretty depressing home - tbh. HDR'd to hell but a brick yard and a BYO washer/dryer that's literally underneath the sun and skies isn't exactly where I'd like to put my expensive appliances. You can check Craigslist and you won't have much better results. Adding AC | Air Conditioning to your search criteria makes it narrow. Go figure - homes with it are in high demand. God forbid they say, "Air conditioning" but really mean just central air and there's no actual air conditioning. Went to more than one showing that advertised that falsity. :( Either way, this is beyond the point. Spending over 50% of your net income on rent alone isn't a great move. Which is what you'd be doing at $115k net income.
- borski 7y agoI think your standards may be too high. That looks like a gorgeous home to me. To be fair, I will agree with you that most places in the Bay Area don't seem to have A/C, but that's also because it's not generally needed here except for a couple weeks a year. You could do what we did in NYC all the time: window A/C's.
- scarface74 7y agoThat is kind of depressing. My wife would swear I was joking if I told her that we could rent a house for $3,000 more than our mortgage that was less than half size and looks like something built in the 70s. And people on HN wonder why software engineers living in other major cities in the US have no interest in going to the west coast.
- borski 7y agoNobody wonders why. The Bay Area is clearly more expensive than anywhere else other than NYC. Nobody has ever argued that that isn't true. The salaries are also significantly higher, to compensate. What is being argued here is whether you can live comfortably on a six figure net salary (after taxes). That housing is expensive in the bay area does suck, no doubt, and is super annoying. But it's far worse for non-engineers. Engineers are fine, and frankly, are the ones who are driving the prices up, by virtue of being capable of and willing to pay more, as companies continue to increase compensation.
- scarface74 7y agoAre the salaries “significantly enough higher” that someone moving to the Bay Area could buy a 3000 square foot 5 bed/3-1/2 bath house with a large office, as soon as they move there? The average software as a service CRUD journeymen developer could do that in many non west coast cities could do that with an FHA loan with less than $15K down with 3-5 with a salary they can make with around 5 years experience. If they are part of a married dual income couple they would be quite comfortable.
- fizzbuzz123 7y agoLmao when a 1,363 SQFT shack that wouldn't sell for over 100K in the rest of the country is a "good deal" at 5200/mo in the valley. The bubble is real