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Amazes me how far people go to avoid simply running Linux, why isnt that the preferred option here ?

by geggam 7y ago

rat9988 7y ago
Because I'm too lazy and too cheap to have two computers.
alexhutcheson 7y ago
Because they want a laptop with decent power management that doesn't freak out when connecting or disconnecting additional displays, but they don't necessarily want a Dell XPS or a ThinkPad. They might also appreciate the ability to quickly nuke their Linux environment and create a new one if they really mess up their configs somehow.
- geggam 7y ago
  None of the issues you speak of are relevant to running linux on a laptop instead of windows. Linux has decent PM and I havent had glitchy issues with displays in years. The idea of nuking the linux environment gets easier when you run one natively as you start to understand the system better. I understand the idea where everyone wants to have the same ecosystem to run things on (docker) but the best part of linux was the fact it wasnt the same as windows This convergence of the operating systems is concerning
  - meddlepal 7y ago
    I dual boot Linux and Windows 10 on my personal Lenovo X1 and my Linux setup definitely has its moments with multiple displays... It mostly works until it does not then it's a headache. Power management seems OK but I dunno how that relates to the fan controller because in Linux my laptop sounds like a jet engine 90% of the time while in Windows it rarely spins up.
    - geggam 7y ago
      Probably could use some configuration on fan control or CPU throttling :) I have more issues with windows than I do linux but I have been using linux on a desktop for ~15 years or more now ( would say 19 but there was a BSD period in there )
miaklesp 7y ago
Only reading about video driver issues and sleep/hibernation configuration puts me off Linux desktop. Windows is a great and modern user-friendly OS. Office 365 is awesome too. WSL is the latest missing piece.
metasaval 7y ago
For me, personally, I just play way too many games to have running Linux as a daily driver a viable option. I've tried multiple times to move (Manjaro with Lutris was the closest I've gotten, but to be fair I haven't tried Steam Proton yet), but it's never stuck. Yea I could dual boot and just keep Windows around for gaming, but I'm lazy and flip-flop between coding and gaming too often. For my uses, I've been able to use Windows as a decent dev environment with no major issues, but WSL2 would make things even better. Note: this is all for personal projects on my home desktop, my work laptop is Windows and I have no problems with it for my current position.

Amazes me how far people go to avoid simply running Linux, why isnt that the preferred option here ?

by geggam 7y ago

Amazes me how far people go to avoid simply running Linux, why isnt that the preferred option here ?

rat9988 7y ago

Because I'm too lazy and too cheap to have two computers.

alexhutcheson 7y ago

Because they want a laptop with decent power management that doesn't freak out when connecting or disconnecting additional displays, but they don't necessarily want a Dell XPS or a ThinkPad. They might also appreciate the ability to quickly nuke their Linux environment and create a new one if they really mess up their configs somehow.

geggam 7y ago
None of the issues you speak of are relevant to running linux on a laptop instead of windows. Linux has decent PM and I havent had glitchy issues with displays in years. The idea of nuking the linux environment gets easier when you run one natively as you start to understand the system better. I understand the idea where everyone wants to have the same ecosystem to run things on (docker) but the best part of linux was the fact it wasnt the same as windows This convergence of the operating systems is concerning
- meddlepal 7y ago
  I dual boot Linux and Windows 10 on my personal Lenovo X1 and my Linux setup definitely has its moments with multiple displays... It mostly works until it does not then it's a headache. Power management seems OK but I dunno how that relates to the fan controller because in Linux my laptop sounds like a jet engine 90% of the time while in Windows it rarely spins up.
  - geggam 7y ago
    Probably could use some configuration on fan control or CPU throttling :) I have more issues with windows than I do linux but I have been using linux on a desktop for ~15 years or more now ( would say 19 but there was a BSD period in there )

miaklesp 7y ago

Only reading about video driver issues and sleep/hibernation configuration puts me off Linux desktop. Windows is a great and modern user-friendly OS. Office 365 is awesome too. WSL is the latest missing piece.

metasaval 7y ago

For me, personally, I just play way too many games to have running Linux as a daily driver a viable option. I've tried multiple times to move (Manjaro with Lutris was the closest I've gotten, but to be fair I haven't tried Steam Proton yet), but it's never stuck. Yea I could dual boot and just keep Windows around for gaming, but I'm lazy and flip-flop between coding and gaming too often. For my uses, I've been able to use Windows as a decent dev environment with no major issues, but WSL2 would make things even better. Note: this is all for personal projects on my home desktop, my work laptop is Windows and I have no problems with it for my current position.