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I think the big one for me would be radio and temp. I assume no one in their right mind would put lights or cruise control behind a touch screen, but I could b

I think the big one for me would be radio and temp. I assume no one in their right mind would put lights or cruise control behind a touch screen, but I could be wrong there. And maybe part of it is me being set in my old man ways, but I don't want a touch screen for any of that. Probably the only 2 things I can see being useful on that screen are the reverse camera and GPS that talks to you and you can glance at it occasionally. Anything else should have real controls.

Rebelgecko 7y ago
I think Teslas make you use the touchscreen for adjusting the cruise control speed
- zaroth 7y ago
  This is incorrect. In fact you cannot adjust the cruise speed via the touch screen at all. Apparently this was actually changed in an early software update to the TM3, and cruise initially was engaged via the screen though! https://interestingengineering.com/tesla-moves-autopilot-controls-to-steering-wheel-for-model-3-units https://interestingengineering.com/tesla-moves-autopilot-con...
  - jaxn 7y ago
    You can still adjust the cruise speed via touchscreen. There is a plus/minus on either side of the displayed cruise speed.
    - zaroth 7y ago
      Well shit, I never noticed that!
- _1 7y ago
  Not on the Model 3, it's a physical knob on the steering wheel.
  - Rebelgecko 7y ago
    Is this forum post not accurate? https://teslamotorsclub.com/tmc/threads/model-3-traffic-aware-cruise-autopilot-touchscreen-controls.107441/ https://teslamotorsclub.com/tmc/threads/model-3-traffic-awar...
    - jaxn 7y ago
      It is outdated. You can use the screen as described, but it is much quicker to roll the right steering wheel button up/down to adjust TACC speed. You can also push it left/right to adjust follow distance. I rarely touch the screen while driving my Model 3 (or while my Model 3 is driving me).
JaggedNZ 7y ago
Just brought the 2019 RAV 4 Hybrid a few months ago, but also test drove the Corolla. The US models differ, but I'm pretty sure the UX is pretty consistent. The A/C on both vehicles is 100% physical controls, no touch screen required, in fact I've yet to see an A/C option on any of the touch screen menus. Yes, the radio is mostly configured via the touch screen, but skipping stations / tracks and volume are controllable via controls on the steering wheel and a physical volume knob on the dash. We don't have carplay yet, but I think it is in the US, this might make my moot, but my main complaint is that it can be quite delayed in starting to play my itunes. I suspect this is because my phone is the secondary audio device (I usually let my wife pick/control the music), but thats a minor annoyance at most. Edit: 6.3l/100km 37.3mpg on Hilly -> Urban commute in an SUV :)
PascLeRasc 7y ago
I'm a "millennial" (25) and I don't want a touch screen either. Car companies just can't make a phone as well as phone companies do. It's not about if the touch screen can be ignored, I specifically want to not have one, like how I don't want RGB lights on a computer or a Windows key on a keyboard, even if I can just ignore them.

Rebelgecko 7y ago

I think Teslas make you use the touchscreen for adjusting the cruise control speed

zaroth 7y ago
This is incorrect. In fact you cannot adjust the cruise speed via the touch screen at all. Apparently this was actually changed in an early software update to the TM3, and cruise initially was engaged via the screen though! https://interestingengineering.com/tesla-moves-autopilot-controls-to-steering-wheel-for-model-3-units https://interestingengineering.com/tesla-moves-autopilot-con...
- jaxn 7y ago
  You can still adjust the cruise speed via touchscreen. There is a plus/minus on either side of the displayed cruise speed.
  - zaroth 7y ago
    Well shit, I never noticed that!
_1 7y ago
Not on the Model 3, it's a physical knob on the steering wheel.
- Rebelgecko 7y ago
  Is this forum post not accurate? https://teslamotorsclub.com/tmc/threads/model-3-traffic-aware-cruise-autopilot-touchscreen-controls.107441/ https://teslamotorsclub.com/tmc/threads/model-3-traffic-awar...
  - jaxn 7y ago
    It is outdated. You can use the screen as described, but it is much quicker to roll the right steering wheel button up/down to adjust TACC speed. You can also push it left/right to adjust follow distance. I rarely touch the screen while driving my Model 3 (or while my Model 3 is driving me).

JaggedNZ 7y ago

Just brought the 2019 RAV 4 Hybrid a few months ago, but also test drove the Corolla. The US models differ, but I'm pretty sure the UX is pretty consistent. The A/C on both vehicles is 100% physical controls, no touch screen required, in fact I've yet to see an A/C option on any of the touch screen menus. Yes, the radio is mostly configured via the touch screen, but skipping stations / tracks and volume are controllable via controls on the steering wheel and a physical volume knob on the dash. We don't have carplay yet, but I think it is in the US, this might make my moot, but my main complaint is that it can be quite delayed in starting to play my itunes. I suspect this is because my phone is the secondary audio device (I usually let my wife pick/control the music), but thats a minor annoyance at most. Edit: 6.3l/100km 37.3mpg on Hilly -> Urban commute in an SUV :)

PascLeRasc 7y ago

I'm a "millennial" (25) and I don't want a touch screen either. Car companies just can't make a phone as well as phone companies do. It's not about if the touch screen can be ignored, I specifically want to not have one, like how I don't want RGB lights on a computer or a Windows key on a keyboard, even if I can just ignore them.