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Unfortunately, the options for non-smart TVs keep getting narrower. Manufacturers want to inject app access into every device they can. You can't even buy a UHD

by koboll 7y ago

Unfortunately, the options for non-smart TVs keep getting narrower. Manufacturers want to inject app access into every device they can. You can't even buy a UHD disc player without an app platform coming with it.

pwinnski 7y ago
My Sony has the ability to be connected to the internet, but have never been connected to the internet. Do other manufacturers force a connection in some way?
- gboss 7y ago
  I'm pretty sure my Samsung smart TV has accessed the internet through the hdmi cable connected to a roku device. I never use the built in smart functionality but it definitely tries to insert itself whenever possible. It's very frustrating.
  - captn3m0 7y ago
    I knew HDMI over ethernet was possible, but didn't know you could do TCP over HDMI?
    - gambiting 7y ago
      Yes, ethernet over HDMI is a thing: https://www.hdmi.org/manufacturer/hdmi_1_4/hec.aspx https://www.hdmi.org/manufacturer/hdmi_1_4/hec.aspx
      - PascLeRasc 7y ago
        It is, but it's pretty much a 0% chance that Roku's video output supports Ethernet passthrough.
- hombre_fatal 7y ago
  Only my purist sensibilities prefer the idea of a TV that doesn't even have apps. But I know I can simply abstain from connecting the TV to the network. Seems like a non-issue. An entry-level 32" Samsung is $200. I wouldn't be surprised if having "smart" capabilities subsidized the cost because Samsung gets kickbacks from, say, new Netflix subscriptions made from the TV itself, or some services pay for inclusion. In other words I don't even think you'd be avoiding any serious $premium by finding a dumb TV.
  - mikeryan 7y ago
    The costs are being subsidized by audience measurement tools such as those provided by folks like Inscape and Samba TV which quantify viewing habits by tracking what you watch. https://www.inscape.tv/ https://www.inscape.tv/ https://samba.tv/ https://samba.tv/

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Unfortunately, the options for non-smart TVs keep getting narrower. Manufacturers want to inject app access into every device they can. You can't even buy a UHD

by koboll 7y ago

pwinnski 7y ago
My Sony has the ability to be connected to the internet, but have never been connected to the internet. Do other manufacturers force a connection in some way?
- gboss 7y ago
  I'm pretty sure my Samsung smart TV has accessed the internet through the hdmi cable connected to a roku device. I never use the built in smart functionality but it definitely tries to insert itself whenever possible. It's very frustrating.
  - captn3m0 7y ago
    I knew HDMI over ethernet was possible, but didn't know you could do TCP over HDMI?
    - gambiting 7y ago
      Yes, ethernet over HDMI is a thing: https://www.hdmi.org/manufacturer/hdmi_1_4/hec.aspx https://www.hdmi.org/manufacturer/hdmi_1_4/hec.aspx
      - PascLeRasc 7y ago
        It is, but it's pretty much a 0% chance that Roku's video output supports Ethernet passthrough.
- hombre_fatal 7y ago
  Only my purist sensibilities prefer the idea of a TV that doesn't even have apps. But I know I can simply abstain from connecting the TV to the network. Seems like a non-issue. An entry-level 32" Samsung is $200. I wouldn't be surprised if having "smart" capabilities subsidized the cost because Samsung gets kickbacks from, say, new Netflix subscriptions made from the TV itself, or some services pay for inclusion. In other words I don't even think you'd be avoiding any serious $premium by finding a dumb TV.
  - mikeryan 7y ago
    The costs are being subsidized by audience measurement tools such as those provided by folks like Inscape and Samba TV which quantify viewing habits by tracking what you watch. https://www.inscape.tv/ https://www.inscape.tv/ https://samba.tv/ https://samba.tv/