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I would expect the child sexual exploitation scandal would have been the main thing leading to Brexit. Do British posters agree?

AndrewDucker 7y ago
Nope. The main driver was austerity: https://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/home-news/brexit-austerity-welfare-cuts-vote-leave-social-market-foundation-report-a8760696.html https://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/home-news/brexit-auste... Also: What scandal? I mean, there's the occasional small one, but no major ones involving Europe that I'm aware of.
- defertoreptar 7y ago
  I can't speak for mooseburger, but I did a search, and it turned up some pretty shocking Wikipedia articles: https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rochdale_child_sex_abuse_ring https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rochdale_child_sex_abuse_rin... https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rotherham_child_sexual_exploitation_scandal https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rotherham_child_sexual_explo... From Wikipedia: > The failure to address the abuse was attributed to a combination of factors revolving around race, class and gender—contemptuous and sexist attitudes toward the mostly working-class victims; fear that the perpetrators' ethnicity would trigger allegations of racism and damage community relations; the Labour council's reluctance to challenge a Labour-voting ethnic minority; lack of a child-centred focus; a desire to protect the town's reputation; and lack of training and resources.
  - candiodari 7y ago
    These are both examples of the British child services, the supposed "child protection" either directly sexually exploiting the children (their employees getting paid to pimp out vulnerable children), or helping others do that (not stated as such, but let's be realistic here, they were also getting paid for it). As for the involvement of immigrants in both cases the immigrants came from former commonwealth countries (since child services pay is total shit, they hire immigrants. Even those don't last, so they're fresh immigrants with often very limited language skills, never mind actual training in caring for children. That this is a horrible idea as it removed children even further from their known environment, which is bound to damage them further, doesn't matter to anyone). But none of it has anything to do with Europe. Only 1 out of 32 involved immigrants may have had something to do with Europe (the Afghan, as allowing that immigration is an EU policy). Pakistani immigrate under British law. So does this have to do with Europe ? Child protection services in the UK, like everywhere else, is a cesspool of misery, locking children up, despair, desperate poverty and abuses of power. But the UK service is very much British. So what does it have to do with Europe ? What does it have to do with Brexit ?
    - AstralStorm 7y ago
      The immigration was one of the major drivers of this ill advised decision, and it was flipped that by allowing UK to dictate all its immigration policy the issues would be reduced. Irrelevant of the source - despite UK already strictly regulating immigration from outside of EU. Others see closing of the cheaper labour influx from new EU members as the other driving factor.
gtf21 7y ago
Which child sexual exploitation scandal, and why would that be the main driver for Brexit?
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dukoid 7y ago
I expected the situation in Calais to be the main driver.

AndrewDucker 7y ago

Nope. The main driver was austerity: https://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/home-news/brexit-austerity-welfare-cuts-vote-leave-social-market-foundation-report-a8760696.html https://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/home-news/brexit-auste... Also: What scandal? I mean, there's the occasional small one, but no major ones involving Europe that I'm aware of.

defertoreptar 7y ago
I can't speak for mooseburger, but I did a search, and it turned up some pretty shocking Wikipedia articles: https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rochdale_child_sex_abuse_ring https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rochdale_child_sex_abuse_rin... https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rotherham_child_sexual_exploitation_scandal https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rotherham_child_sexual_explo... From Wikipedia: > The failure to address the abuse was attributed to a combination of factors revolving around race, class and gender—contemptuous and sexist attitudes toward the mostly working-class victims; fear that the perpetrators' ethnicity would trigger allegations of racism and damage community relations; the Labour council's reluctance to challenge a Labour-voting ethnic minority; lack of a child-centred focus; a desire to protect the town's reputation; and lack of training and resources.
- candiodari 7y ago
  These are both examples of the British child services, the supposed "child protection" either directly sexually exploiting the children (their employees getting paid to pimp out vulnerable children), or helping others do that (not stated as such, but let's be realistic here, they were also getting paid for it). As for the involvement of immigrants in both cases the immigrants came from former commonwealth countries (since child services pay is total shit, they hire immigrants. Even those don't last, so they're fresh immigrants with often very limited language skills, never mind actual training in caring for children. That this is a horrible idea as it removed children even further from their known environment, which is bound to damage them further, doesn't matter to anyone). But none of it has anything to do with Europe. Only 1 out of 32 involved immigrants may have had something to do with Europe (the Afghan, as allowing that immigration is an EU policy). Pakistani immigrate under British law. So does this have to do with Europe ? Child protection services in the UK, like everywhere else, is a cesspool of misery, locking children up, despair, desperate poverty and abuses of power. But the UK service is very much British. So what does it have to do with Europe ? What does it have to do with Brexit ?
  - AstralStorm 7y ago
    The immigration was one of the major drivers of this ill advised decision, and it was flipped that by allowing UK to dictate all its immigration policy the issues would be reduced. Irrelevant of the source - despite UK already strictly regulating immigration from outside of EU. Others see closing of the cheaper labour influx from new EU members as the other driving factor.

gtf21 7y ago

Which child sexual exploitation scandal, and why would that be the main driver for Brexit?

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dukoid 7y ago

I expected the situation in Calais to be the main driver.