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There's no evidence. There's a handful of (allegedly) Russian facebook posts / members, and then spurious, inconsequential allegations about specific individual

There's no evidence. There's a handful of (allegedly) Russian facebook posts / members, and then spurious, inconsequential allegations about specific individuals. The special counsel is an obvious stitch up which has achieved almost nothing aside from some irrelevant indictments, and which has produced no credible evidence of any conspiracy with Russia. If your terms of investigation are just 'Russian interference', then you can classify literally anything which comes from a Russian as being 'interference'. Is my post 'UK interference' in US politics? It's a joke. The entire world is laughing at the US over this.

meowface 7y ago
That's a misrepresentation of the extent of Russia's espionage and propaganda campaigns during the elections. Considering Russia's propensity to kill people on UK soil, you'd think you'd be more willing to accept that their intelligence services can be brazen. No, no evidence was produced that Trump or his campaign conspired with them. But massive amounts of evidence was produced that Russia tried to influence the election.
- hallihax 7y ago
  > That's a misrepresentation of the extent of Russia's espionage and propaganda campaigns during the elections. Considering Russia's propensity to kill people on UK soil, you'd think you'd be more willing to accept that their intelligence services can be brazen. The Skripal narrative is nonsense too. The whole story is a farce. > No, no evidence was produced that Trump or his campaign conspired with them. But massive amounts of evidence was produced that Russia tried to influence the election. Having preferred outcomes and posting memes on Facebook isn't a crime under any law - national or international.
  - meowface 7y ago
    If it were just posting memes, there wouldn't be this fiasco in the first place. No, Russia didn't commit any crimes when it came to the propaganda, but the US also isn't committing crimes when they spread propaganda in other countries. Espionage, influence, and intelligence operations can be very effective without necessarily being illegal. Also, propaganda aside, Russia did certainly commit crimes when it comes to the US politics-targeted hacking performed by their GRU and SVR intelligence departments during 2016.

meowface 7y ago

That's a misrepresentation of the extent of Russia's espionage and propaganda campaigns during the elections. Considering Russia's propensity to kill people on UK soil, you'd think you'd be more willing to accept that their intelligence services can be brazen. No, no evidence was produced that Trump or his campaign conspired with them. But massive amounts of evidence was produced that Russia tried to influence the election.

hallihax 7y ago
> That's a misrepresentation of the extent of Russia's espionage and propaganda campaigns during the elections. Considering Russia's propensity to kill people on UK soil, you'd think you'd be more willing to accept that their intelligence services can be brazen. The Skripal narrative is nonsense too. The whole story is a farce. > No, no evidence was produced that Trump or his campaign conspired with them. But massive amounts of evidence was produced that Russia tried to influence the election. Having preferred outcomes and posting memes on Facebook isn't a crime under any law - national or international.
- meowface 7y ago
  If it were just posting memes, there wouldn't be this fiasco in the first place. No, Russia didn't commit any crimes when it came to the propaganda, but the US also isn't committing crimes when they spread propaganda in other countries. Espionage, influence, and intelligence operations can be very effective without necessarily being illegal. Also, propaganda aside, Russia did certainly commit crimes when it comes to the US politics-targeted hacking performed by their GRU and SVR intelligence departments during 2016.