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> I submit that the computer-only emergency brake assist is safer than the combination of human and computer You're choosing to ignore the fact that computers

by radcon 7y ago

> I submit that the computer-only emergency brake assist is safer than the combination of human and computer You're choosing to ignore the fact that computers still make mistakes. My friend's car (an Acura) recently slammed on the brakes @ 70mph because it mistakenly thought a car in an adjacent lane was in his lane. Had there been someone following close behind him, it probably would've caused an accident. This is not an uncommon occurrence, especially with Honda/Acura's system. You can find tons of complaints online about AEB systems reacting to false positives.

Recurecur 7y ago
"You're choosing to ignore the fact that computers still make mistakes." No, but I'll unequivocally assert that the human false alarm rate is much higher than that of computers. "My friend's car (an Acura) recently slammed on the brakes @ 70mph because it mistakenly thought a car in an adjacent lane was in his lane. Had there been someone following close behind him, it probably would've caused an accident." Does it have a readout indicating what it "thought"? It seems possible that the car in the other lane drifted, and the computer thought it was changing lanes into the Acura. Braking was appropriate in that circumstance. "This is not an uncommon occurrence, especially with Honda/Acura's system. You can find tons of complaints online about AEB systems reacting to false positives." That may be, and I suspect a fix will be forthcoming which will address every Honda/Acura on the road (or new models, worst case). Meanwhile, humans will continue to look down at a text, hamburger, or whatever, and then panic when a few seconds later they look up and think they're in trouble. Not to mention driving tired, drunk, high, angry, or stupid.
Recurecur 7y ago
BTW, I did mean to make one more point regarding: "Had there been someone following close behind him, it probably would've caused an accident." And of course the person running into the braking vehicle would have been at fault. In most cases, only assisted emergency braking would help, since most people follow way too close on the freeway - human reaction time isn't fast enough.

by radcon 7y ago

Recurecur 7y ago

"You're choosing to ignore the fact that computers still make mistakes." No, but I'll unequivocally assert that the human false alarm rate is much higher than that of computers. "My friend's car (an Acura) recently slammed on the brakes @ 70mph because it mistakenly thought a car in an adjacent lane was in his lane. Had there been someone following close behind him, it probably would've caused an accident." Does it have a readout indicating what it "thought"? It seems possible that the car in the other lane drifted, and the computer thought it was changing lanes into the Acura. Braking was appropriate in that circumstance. "This is not an uncommon occurrence, especially with Honda/Acura's system. You can find tons of complaints online about AEB systems reacting to false positives." That may be, and I suspect a fix will be forthcoming which will address every Honda/Acura on the road (or new models, worst case). Meanwhile, humans will continue to look down at a text, hamburger, or whatever, and then panic when a few seconds later they look up and think they're in trouble. Not to mention driving tired, drunk, high, angry, or stupid.

Recurecur 7y ago

BTW, I did mean to make one more point regarding: "Had there been someone following close behind him, it probably would've caused an accident." And of course the person running into the braking vehicle would have been at fault. In most cases, only assisted emergency braking would help, since most people follow way too close on the freeway - human reaction time isn't fast enough.