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> "A human paying attention assisted by a computer paying attention is always going to be safer than either separately." > No. Stating something as a fact with
by vageli 7y ago
> "A human paying attention assisted by a computer paying attention is always going to be safer than either separately."
> No. Stating something as a fact without analyzing it in the slightest is bad.
> Example:
> (1) Only a computer is "paying attention" performing the "assisted emergency breaking" role. The computer has an effective reaction time of 1/100 of a second. Within 2/100 of a second of a qualifying event, the vehicle will be in full antilock brake mode.
> (2) A human and a computer are "paying attention" performing the "assisted emergency breaking" role (this is a little silly in that the human is already the primary brake operator...). The computer still has 1/100 s reaction time, but the human's reaction time is 25/100 s. What exactly is the human bringing to the table? It is true that the human may detect an actual threat the computer doesn't...however that slow reaction time means it likely won't make a difference in the outcome. On the other hand, the human may "detect" a false alarm, and emergency brake by mistake. That activity often leads to wrecks!
> I submit that the computer-only emergency brake assist is safer than the combination of human and computer. Further, all of these "human in the loop" systems suffer from a fatal flaw - the inability of people to pay attention unless it's absolutely crucial.
> The way people use Tesla Autopilot shows that full autonomy is necessary, and will in fact be safer than any "assisted" system.
I think your example is uncharitable because you allow for a human to react to a false alarm in the second but don't account for a computer to react similarly in the first. Personally speaking, I have seen very few occasions of people exercising extreme braking wrongly. I feel computers would be less apt at discerning from a false positive than a human operator with even a little experience behind the wheel.
Given that autonomous cars can be misled by painting roadways certain ways [0], it's clear to me that the number of unknown unknowns that must be handled by a car are large in number, and I have less faith in the skillful handling of those events by a computer than a human.
[0]: https://nerdist.com/article/trap-a-self-driving-car/ https://nerdist.com/article/trap-a-self-driving-car/
- melkiaur 7y ago> What exactly is the human bringing to the table? He can see the big truck 200 yards in front of him, and recognize that it is indeed a truck, and not an overhead traffic sign. Apparently, Teslas don't bring that to the table. Alternatively, the human could recognize that the truck is on fire and smoking, and that it would be a good idea to stay away from it.