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Hmmm declaring the people of a territory you occupy to be less talented than your own people. Reminds me of something

by VB6_Forever 16y ago

cool-RR 16y ago
That's a completely trollish comment.
- VB6_Forever 16y ago
  Dehumanising 'others' allows people to do unjust acts with a clear conscience. The flimsy anecdotal evidence you gave as the basis for your dismissal of the Palestinian people suggests to me that you are not so clever or talented as you may think.
Samuel_Michon 16y ago
"a territory you occupy" Last I heard, the jury was still out on whose land it is.
- VB6_Forever 16y ago
  I don't have a fixed view on the issue of Palestine and Israel. Doesn't Israel have military control over the West Bank?
  - Samuel_Michon 16y ago
    Israel also has military control over the Negev (Southern District). Few would say that Israel 'occupies' that region -- just like England doesn't 'occupy' Sussex. I have no opinion about what to do with the West Bank, but by saying that it is 'occupied' by Israel, I feel you're implying that Israel's presence there is unjustified.
    - VB6_Forever 16y ago
      The people of Sussex have long felt themselves to belong to the English nation. Israel captured the West bank in a war. I doubt that the population of the west bank will ever be assimilated and become patriotic Israelis. Religion, let alone nationalism, guarantees this I'd say. Israel (and the US) will eventually tire of having to use the army to control the population. Eventually Israel will have to give it up imo
      - Samuel_Michon 16y ago
        "Israel captured the West bank in a war." Israel captured it from Jordan in 1967, which had taken it in 1948. Jordan's occupance was recognized by practically noone. Up until that time, it had been part of the British Mandate of 1922, which was an international effort to create a Jewish state. "The territory now known as the West Bank was a part of the British Mandate of Palestine entrusted to the United Kingdom by the League of Nations after World War I. The terms of the Mandate called for the creation in Palestine of a Jewish national home without prejudicing the civil and religious rights of the non-Jewish population of Palestine. During that time the area was called by the historic names of its two regions -- Judea and Samaria." http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/West_bank#History http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/West_bank#History "Judea (from the Hebrew: יהודה, "Tribe of Judah") was the name of the mountainous southern part of the historic Land of Israel." http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Judea http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Judea "Samaria (Hebrew: שֹׁמְרוֹן‎) is a term used for a mountainous region roughly corresponding to the northern part of the West Bank. [..] "Samaria" derives from an ancient city of the same name, which was located near the south of Samaria, and was the capital of the Kingdom of Israel." http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Samari http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Samari
        Andrew_Quentin 16y ago
        Had taken it in 1948 from who? Also, remind everyone, when was Israel created? Furthermore, isn't the article about Gaza at least partially also, and, isn't Gaza some sort of prison? Finally, is Israel not actually occupying these territories? I mean, is West Bank Israel and by the same token is Gaza Israel too?

Hmmm declaring the people of a territory you occupy to be less talented than your own people. Reminds me of something

cool-RR 16y ago

That's a completely trollish comment.

VB6_Forever 16y ago
Dehumanising 'others' allows people to do unjust acts with a clear conscience. The flimsy anecdotal evidence you gave as the basis for your dismissal of the Palestinian people suggests to me that you are not so clever or talented as you may think.

Samuel_Michon 16y ago

"a territory you occupy" Last I heard, the jury was still out on whose land it is.

VB6_Forever 16y ago
I don't have a fixed view on the issue of Palestine and Israel. Doesn't Israel have military control over the West Bank?
- Samuel_Michon 16y ago
  Israel also has military control over the Negev (Southern District). Few would say that Israel 'occupies' that region -- just like England doesn't 'occupy' Sussex. I have no opinion about what to do with the West Bank, but by saying that it is 'occupied' by Israel, I feel you're implying that Israel's presence there is unjustified.
  - VB6_Forever 16y ago
    The people of Sussex have long felt themselves to belong to the English nation. Israel captured the West bank in a war. I doubt that the population of the west bank will ever be assimilated and become patriotic Israelis. Religion, let alone nationalism, guarantees this I'd say. Israel (and the US) will eventually tire of having to use the army to control the population. Eventually Israel will have to give it up imo
    - Samuel_Michon 16y ago
      "Israel captured the West bank in a war." Israel captured it from Jordan in 1967, which had taken it in 1948. Jordan's occupance was recognized by practically noone. Up until that time, it had been part of the British Mandate of 1922, which was an international effort to create a Jewish state. "The territory now known as the West Bank was a part of the British Mandate of Palestine entrusted to the United Kingdom by the League of Nations after World War I. The terms of the Mandate called for the creation in Palestine of a Jewish national home without prejudicing the civil and religious rights of the non-Jewish population of Palestine. During that time the area was called by the historic names of its two regions -- Judea and Samaria." http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/West_bank#History http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/West_bank#History "Judea (from the Hebrew: יהודה, "Tribe of Judah") was the name of the mountainous southern part of the historic Land of Israel." http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Judea http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Judea "Samaria (Hebrew: שֹׁמְרוֹן‎) is a term used for a mountainous region roughly corresponding to the northern part of the West Bank. [..] "Samaria" derives from an ancient city of the same name, which was located near the south of Samaria, and was the capital of the Kingdom of Israel." http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Samari http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Samari
      - Andrew_Quentin 16y ago
        Had taken it in 1948 from who? Also, remind everyone, when was Israel created? Furthermore, isn't the article about Gaza at least partially also, and, isn't Gaza some sort of prison? Finally, is Israel not actually occupying these territories? I mean, is West Bank Israel and by the same token is Gaza Israel too?