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My own post on this was deleted in less than two minutes (https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=20200354 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=20200354). Hopefull

• qazpot 7y ago
  There is certainly a strain of leftist totalitarianism prevalent on HN, which suppresses any news not in sync with their "we good, they bad" world view.
  • 0815test 7y ago
    > a strain of leftist totalitarianism A strain of leftist totalitarianism which - as it turns out - originally came about as a result of Russian (well, Soviet, but still) political interference. Isn't that deliciously ironic? Of course the memetic infection has been self-propagating for a very long time, also merging with other strains originating from e.g. Maoist China at the peak of the Cultural Revolution. It's a bit like a zombie invasion which has no real underlying goals of its own besides memetic success - but the Russian propaganda component was definitely there originally!
    • mooseburger 7y ago
      No it's not, that started around 2010 with the Great Awokening. It's being driven by the mainstream media: https://threadreaderapp.com/thread/1133440945201061888.html https://threadreaderapp.com/thread/1133440945201061888.html
      • mistermann 7y ago
        That's pretty interesting. As they say, Meme Magic is real.
      • taurath 7y ago
        Missing from this post - a source and also the total num of articles used as source data. I’d bet that the number of articles in general have increased by a lot.
    • mistermann 7y ago
      > originally came about as a result of Russian (well, Soviet, but still) political interference. Could you share what this refers to, and do you have specific conclusive evidence that you could also share?
      • MockObject 7y ago
        I would guess he's alluding to Soviet influence on our 60s counterculture. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Soviet_influence_on_the_peace_movement https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Soviet_influence_on_the_peace_...
      • 0815test 7y ago
        See e.g. Vladimir Bukovsky's Judgment in Moscow, currently being reissued in English translation. It just goes to prove that Russian interference in Western politics is nothing new, much less out of the ordinary. But the direction it points towards is very different from what you hear these days in the mainstream media!
        • mistermann 7y ago
          Thank you, that's seems both substantive and evidence-based. In my mind, the important question is: to what degree, in what forms, and backed by what evidence, does this interference actually in fact continue today, and (as you say) how closely does this align to the narrative of interference that is presented (through various channels, by various actors, coordinated or independent) to people today? It's quite fun to think about impartially.
          • 0815test 7y ago
            The interference need not continue today for the related memes to still be active. They've simply become zombie memes and have been actively spreading as such, perhaps being quite independent of any outside interference. Similarly, the Great Proletarian Cultural Revolution has been over for decades in China itself and the Gang of Four has even lost political favor in the PRC, but the memes which have been boosted by it ("Marx, Mao, Marcuse!" and the like) are very much active in the West. The unrolled Twitter thread that's been linked in a sibling comment is highly instructive in this regard!
  • pessimizer 7y ago
    There's absolutely no relationship between leftism and the FBI, other than that the FBI targets leftists.
    • luckylion 7y ago
      Can you turn that around to determine whether some group is leftist? "Are they targeted by the FBI?" as a test?
• hannasanarion 7y ago
  What "evidence" does this contradict?