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Finally we are back to Citroen CX design putting controls on the center console: https://photos.smugmug.com/Other/86-Citroen-DX-Prestige/i-Cv5pmk5/0/ae557449/X

Finally we are back to Citroen CX design putting controls on the center console: https://photos.smugmug.com/Other/86-Citroen-DX-Prestige/i-Cv5pmk5/0/ae557449/X3/109-X3.jpg https://photos.smugmug.com/Other/86-Citroen-DX-Prestige/i-Cv...

comboy 7y ago
I can't imagine reaching those without "applying torque to the steering wheel" (or straight blocking it which is much worse).
- seszett 7y ago
  They're very easy to reach with you right hand while holding the wheel with your left hand.
masklinn 7y ago
Aren't most of the controls on your picture not on the center console? The bloody hazards button is behind the driving wheel and inaccessible to the passenger. For what it's worth I've pretty much always known the controls to be over the center console. And the instruments being there as well has been happening for some time, at least for some vehicle classes e.g. on the C3 picasso anything but the purely driving-related controls is on the center console: https://www.autoexpress.co.uk/citroen/c3-picasso/61746/used-buyers-guide-citroen-c3-picasso-pictures https://www.autoexpress.co.uk/citroen/c3-picasso/61746/used-...
- karavelov 7y ago
  Look at the controls behind the gear shift stick - not much but still similar to what Mazda does with the audio controls. BTW, I have never used the hazard button while the car is in motion or at least driving very slowly.
  - masklinn 7y ago
    > Look at the controls behind the gear shift stick - not much but still similar to what Mazda does with the audio controls. I don't think I've ever seen a car where these weren't on the center console. > BTW, I have never used the hazard button while the car is in motion or at least driving very slowly. 'round here it's common to use the hazards when in sight of or at the tail of a highway / freeway traffic jam.
    - seszett 7y ago
      The controls there are definitely not in the same place as most cars. Here they are to the right of the driver, between the gear shift stick and the handbrake. Apart from some modern cars with a single dial and maybe a couple buttons there, most only have storage space there and the controls are in the front, not between the driver and passenger.
      - masklinn 7y ago
        Oh I see, you're talking about the entertainment system of the DX having its controls in the center isle, next to the handbrake. I was looking at the car system controls below the air vents, hence my wondering what the difference was. FWIW BMW's idrive and Audi's MMI physical control are in roughly the same spot (idrive's been both below and besides the gear selector, MMI's usually been above or below though both have basically surrounded the stick: https://www.picclickimg.com/00/s/MTE1MFgxNjAw/z/xvEAAOSwll1Wu7iF/$/2x-Audi-S-line-MMI-Idrive-button-decal-sticker-_57.jpg https://www.picclickimg.com/00/s/MTE1MFgxNjAw/z/xvEAAOSwll1W...). And though recent generation MMIs are apparently touchscreen-only, BMW has retained physical controls next to the shifter: https://cdn.bmwblog.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/10/BMW-6-Series-Gran-Turismo-GT-test-drive-88-830x553.jpg https://cdn.bmwblog.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/10/BMW-6-Ser...

comboy 7y ago

I can't imagine reaching those without "applying torque to the steering wheel" (or straight blocking it which is much worse).

seszett 7y ago
They're very easy to reach with you right hand while holding the wheel with your left hand.

masklinn 7y ago

Aren't most of the controls on your picture not on the center console? The bloody hazards button is behind the driving wheel and inaccessible to the passenger. For what it's worth I've pretty much always known the controls to be over the center console. And the instruments being there as well has been happening for some time, at least for some vehicle classes e.g. on the C3 picasso anything but the purely driving-related controls is on the center console: https://www.autoexpress.co.uk/citroen/c3-picasso/61746/used-buyers-guide-citroen-c3-picasso-pictures https://www.autoexpress.co.uk/citroen/c3-picasso/61746/used-...

karavelov 7y ago
Look at the controls behind the gear shift stick - not much but still similar to what Mazda does with the audio controls. BTW, I have never used the hazard button while the car is in motion or at least driving very slowly.
- masklinn 7y ago
  > Look at the controls behind the gear shift stick - not much but still similar to what Mazda does with the audio controls. I don't think I've ever seen a car where these weren't on the center console. > BTW, I have never used the hazard button while the car is in motion or at least driving very slowly. 'round here it's common to use the hazards when in sight of or at the tail of a highway / freeway traffic jam.
  - seszett 7y ago
    The controls there are definitely not in the same place as most cars. Here they are to the right of the driver, between the gear shift stick and the handbrake. Apart from some modern cars with a single dial and maybe a couple buttons there, most only have storage space there and the controls are in the front, not between the driver and passenger.
    - masklinn 7y ago
      Oh I see, you're talking about the entertainment system of the DX having its controls in the center isle, next to the handbrake. I was looking at the car system controls below the air vents, hence my wondering what the difference was. FWIW BMW's idrive and Audi's MMI physical control are in roughly the same spot (idrive's been both below and besides the gear selector, MMI's usually been above or below though both have basically surrounded the stick: https://www.picclickimg.com/00/s/MTE1MFgxNjAw/z/xvEAAOSwll1Wu7iF/$/2x-Audi-S-line-MMI-Idrive-button-decal-sticker-_57.jpg https://www.picclickimg.com/00/s/MTE1MFgxNjAw/z/xvEAAOSwll1W...). And though recent generation MMIs are apparently touchscreen-only, BMW has retained physical controls next to the shifter: https://cdn.bmwblog.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/10/BMW-6-Series-Gran-Turismo-GT-test-drive-88-830x553.jpg https://cdn.bmwblog.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/10/BMW-6-Ser...