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Not sure what you quite mean here. The platform, is the web. Which is completely open - you can install and run any webapp you wish. I think you're still thin

by axod 16y ago

Not sure what you quite mean here. The platform, is the web. Which is completely open - you can install and run any webapp you wish. I think you're still thinking in the 'old' terms, where computers have local filesystems and native applications. Forget about those, they're just firmware like the BIOS.

TomOfTTB 16y ago
Just to be fair his point is valid on the browser (though I agree with you that everything else he said is utterly false). But I'd defend Google on even that. The browser is the core of ChromeOS so I don't think they can allow it to be replaced. But what they can do is make Chrome the most standards compliant browser out there and that's exactly what they've been doing. So while you are locked into the Chrome browser in ChromeOS you could easily go back to Windows and Mozilla and take anything you created there with you (not to mention the Chrome browser is built on an open source browser engine)
dstein 16y ago
The platform, is the web. Which is completely open - you can install and run any webapp you wish. The web is open, agreed. But you're going to have to explain to me how I can read or write a file on a ChromeOS without Google knowing what is read or written. Then, if Google's infrastructure is required for I/O, please explain how this is not totalitarian computing.
- axod 16y ago
  > "But you're going to have to explain to me how I can read or write a file on a ChromeOS without Google knowing what is read or written." Well you can use HTML5 local storage, cookies, db etc, or you can store stuff on 'the cloud'. If you don't trust google, then that's another matter. How do I know that my linksys router isn't tracking everything I do? Because I trust linksys not to do that. Same here. If I buy a ChromeOS device, I'll just have to trust Google aren't going to be evil.
- dstein 16y ago
  If you don't trust google, then that's another matter. What do you mean "another" matter? This is "the" matter. In an open computing platform I don't have to "just trust" anybody.
  - axod 16y ago
    Yes you do, you have to trust the chip makers, the BIOS maker, the network interface card maker, your ISP, your router etc etc Any one of those could be screwing with you.
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    - dstein 16y ago
      you have to trust the chip makers, the BIOS maker, the network interface card maker So, what you're saying is we might as well just give up, and purposely store all our data on Google's file servers and give up all data and information privacy, because all network chip manufacturers and internet providers are already sniffing all our data?

by axod 16y ago

TomOfTTB 16y ago

Just to be fair his point is valid on the browser (though I agree with you that everything else he said is utterly false). But I'd defend Google on even that. The browser is the core of ChromeOS so I don't think they can allow it to be replaced. But what they can do is make Chrome the most standards compliant browser out there and that's exactly what they've been doing. So while you are locked into the Chrome browser in ChromeOS you could easily go back to Windows and Mozilla and take anything you created there with you (not to mention the Chrome browser is built on an open source browser engine)

dstein 16y ago

The platform, is the web. Which is completely open - you can install and run any webapp you wish. The web is open, agreed. But you're going to have to explain to me how I can read or write a file on a ChromeOS without Google knowing what is read or written. Then, if Google's infrastructure is required for I/O, please explain how this is not totalitarian computing.

axod 16y ago
> "But you're going to have to explain to me how I can read or write a file on a ChromeOS without Google knowing what is read or written." Well you can use HTML5 local storage, cookies, db etc, or you can store stuff on 'the cloud'. If you don't trust google, then that's another matter. How do I know that my linksys router isn't tracking everything I do? Because I trust linksys not to do that. Same here. If I buy a ChromeOS device, I'll just have to trust Google aren't going to be evil.
dstein 16y ago
If you don't trust google, then that's another matter. What do you mean "another" matter? This is "the" matter. In an open computing platform I don't have to "just trust" anybody.
- axod 16y ago
  Yes you do, you have to trust the chip makers, the BIOS maker, the network interface card maker, your ISP, your router etc etc Any one of those could be screwing with you.
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  - dstein 16y ago
    you have to trust the chip makers, the BIOS maker, the network interface card maker So, what you're saying is we might as well just give up, and purposely store all our data on Google's file servers and give up all data and information privacy, because all network chip manufacturers and internet providers are already sniffing all our data?