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There aren’t going to be long term winners from climate change. They might be less affected but it’s not going to be good. New illnesses, food scarcity and othe
by brm 7y ago
There aren’t going to be long term winners from climate change. They might be less affected but it’s not going to be good. New illnesses, food scarcity and other things will only make some places “winnings” a relative thing.
Would you consider a tornado that levels your house a long term winner for your basement?
- 9nGQluzmnq3M 7y agoNo, there are places that are borderline unhabitable now that will become more livable as the climate warms. Here's one study: http://blogs.cuit.columbia.edu/jmp2265/?page_id=48 http://blogs.cuit.columbia.edu/jmp2265/?page_id=48 As a tangible example, Greenland is now starting to be warm enough to grow potatoes: http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/americas/6993612.stm http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/americas/6993612.stm
- crygin 7y agoThey're not going to be so nice when they're at the other end of a four-billion-person refugee crisis in a few decades.
- 2_listerine_pls 7y agoIsn't the methane release going to accelerate the warming exponentially to the point of mass-extintion? The so-called feedback effect. Permafrost is thawing 70 years before the simplistic models predicted: - https://www.livescience.com/65709-arctic-permafrost-melts-decades-early.html https://www.livescience.com/65709-arctic-permafrost-melts-de... - https://envisionation.co.uk/index.php/nick-breeze/203-subsea-permafrost-on-east-siberian-arctic-shelf-now-in-accelerated-decline https://envisionation.co.uk/index.php/nick-breeze/203-subsea... Also, there is Nitrous Oxide too, which will deplete the Ozone layer: - https://news.harvard.edu/gazette/story/2019/06/harvard-chemist-permafrost-n2o-levels-12-times-higher-than-expected/ https://news.harvard.edu/gazette/story/2019/06/harvard-chemi...
- 9nGQluzmnq3M 7y agoI'm not qualified to comment on whether Earth will eventually end up looking like Venus, I'm just pointing out that in the short term there will be places that gain from climate change as well.
- m0zg 7y agoI think it's pretty safe to say that Earth will not end up looking like Venus from a simple fact that there were times in its history when greenhouse gas concentrations were much higher than even the wildest projections you'd see today, and yet here we are. Now granted, there weren't any people back then, but the planet did not turn into Venus.
- adrianN 7y agoIf we continue our current path it seems likely that the ecosystem collapses hard enough that even places where the climate becomes nicer for humans will be hard to inhabit, for example because phytoplankton in the oceans dies off and we run out of oxygen.
- nn3 7y agoThere will be winners and losers from climate change. Likely a lot more losers than winners. But denying that there will be winners too is as misguided as denying climate change in the first place. In this case winners are tied to places, so yes moving will be often the only sensible option. Is Siberia the perfect place to move to? We'll find out (or rather our descendants will) But they're unlikely to be the losers at least
- thrav 7y agoUnless that article about those 2 scientists from the 50's is correct, and the rising oceans will allow free circulation between the atlantic, arctic, and pacific leading to massive snowfall on arctic land masses creating 2 mile high glaciers and causing the next ice age.