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I am proud of our democratic cousins in Hong Kong; this is just the beginning. Who knows what kind of country China will be in 2047, maybe there is hope for dem
by taiwanboy 7y ago
I am proud of our democratic cousins in Hong Kong; this is just the beginning. Who knows what kind of country China will be in 2047, maybe there is hope for democratic China or 50 more years of democratic Hong Kong, who knows.
As for Taiwan, Taiwanese people already identify themselves with being Taiwanese. Nearly 80% of people polled identify themselves in fact, in recent polls. Now we just need the older generations to slowly fade away (ones that still watch China influenced news channels). The fact that president Tsai (who is close to our US allies) won her party election recently and has a 10% lead over her opposite party opponents (who are now distancing themselves from China) give us great hope. Our independence is going to continue.
As for the naysayers that say China can simply invade, I beg to differ. China was always going to have problems attacking a well fortified island. But an old, broke China with no allies in the region attacking Taiwan with US backing it is impossible. And as time goes on, Taiwan will eventually declare independence and have the world support for it. That’s the future I am looking forward to
- nojvek 7y agoI really look forward to Taiwan as its own independent country like Singapore.
- hker 7y agoI think the South East Asia region will be more stable if Taiwan, a democratic nation, rises in power and gets less influenced by CCP, whose legitimacy depends largely on fast GDP growth, which is increasingly impossible in this age of excess production and currently is done only with unsustainable credit expansion. Recently Xi is switching the legitimacy from fast GDP growth to revival nationalism--the so called Chinese dream [1]--but such aggression is also destablizing to the region. Some coordinated efforts in the free world to raise Taiwan would help, but at least Taiwan is gaining a little bit from the recent trade tariffs [2]. [1]: https://www.eurasiareview.com/08122018-the-contours-of-xis-chinese-nationalism-analysis/ https://www.eurasiareview.com/08122018-the-contours-of-xis-c... [2]: https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2019-06-03/vietnam-tops-list-of-biggest-winners-from-u-s-china-trade-war https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2019-06-03/vietnam-t...
- XuMiao 7y agoTsai has destroyed Taiwan demarcracy. Her lead in the poll is simply the result of her political manipulations. The poll is not trustworthy. She has split the people in Taiwan. She invites wars among people so that she can maintain her power. She violates so many rules to win elections. The approach is extremely disgusting. So sad to see so many irrational and under-informed young Taiwanese people become mentally disabled due to the political brainwash, hatred speech, and self-righteousness. They are going to be the generation of conflicting and fighting. But they will simply be fighting the lies they believed in. The only hope left in Taiwan is HanGuoYu. Unfortunately, not everyone can see the truth.
- dang 7y agoPlease don't use HN for partisan battle. It's not what this site is for. Yes, the topic and the thread are political, but this is a big step in the wrong direction. https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html
- mistermann 7y ago> irrational Speaking of rationality, could you provide evidence &/or explain how you came to know the various assertions you made in the first paragraph?
- whoevercares 7y agoI doubt Mainland government will allow a “eventually” Taiwan independence because it hurts the legitimacy of CCP(on the MAINLAND!), which will have a cascading effect.
- taiwanboy 7y agoNot sure what your point is, CCPs legitimacy just crashed when Carrie Lam, a puppet of CCP, just bowed to the pressure of 2M protestors in Hong Kong.
- whoevercares 7y agoUh...I’ll just quote Jiang: “(Young people)Too simple, sometimes naive”
- taiwanboy 7y agoYou know who isn’t naive? CCP. Any slight acts of aggression against a democratic Taiwan will mean economic sanctions against China from US and its allies (EU, Japan, etc). China’s economy will go back to the stone ages. Those US, British, French warships patrolling the Taiwan straits aren’t just for fun neither
- whoevercares 7y agoAlmost vice-versa, ask US and its allies if they’ll support any equally aggressive action from Taiwan(e.g. break current tie) when there’s no benefit for them
- taiwanboy 7y agohttps://www.taiwannews.com.tw/en/news/3721753 https://www.taiwannews.com.tw/en/news/3721753 After China tariffs, Trump should recognize Taiwan, the Pentagon likely agrees
- xxxpupugo 7y agoCCP's legitimacy is the war machine. Unlikely it will be deployed, but it is there nevertheless, and the perceived threat from US will only make it accelerate such actions.
- 29athrowaway 7y agoThe PLA is not China's army, it is the Chinese communist party's army. PLA training is 90% political indoctrination, 10% combat training. They have garrisons in Hong Kong (edited). Unless the Chinese communist party self-destructs, there's no foreseeable end of communist rule in China. The social credit system and online censors prevent people from criticizing and opposing the government.
- remarkEon 7y agoSource on this?
- kposehn 7y ago> They have garrisons in Taipei Source please
- NotSammyHagar 7y agoI don't think they have garrisons in Taipei. Please explain what you mean?
- 29athrowaway 7y agoI meant garrisons in Hong Kong, facepalm.
- brainpool 7y agoSorry, but China could invade Taiwan by breakfast and be done by lunch if it was so influens. The only reason it has not happened already has very little with Taiwan to do and more with geopolitical issues and Chinas dependency on oil.
- yissachar 7y agoThis article disagrees with you: https://foreignpolicy.com/2018/09/25/taiwan-can-win-a-war-with-china/ https://foreignpolicy.com/2018/09/25/taiwan-can-win-a-war-wi... > Both Westerners and Taiwanese should be more optimistic about the defense of Taiwan than is now normal. > Yes, the Taiwanese Army projects that it can only hold off its enemy for two weeks after the landing—but the PLA also believes that if it cannot defeat the Taiwanese forces in under two weeks, it will lose the war!