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How is it they are not fucked? No country that wants to continue to do business with China is going to back this uprising. Is there an imaginible sequence of ev

How is it they are not fucked? No country that wants to continue to do business with China is going to back this uprising. Is there an imaginible sequence of events that doesn't result in either capitulation or a violent crushing of dissent?

devoply 7y ago
US killed Huawei overnight, a world-class competitor which was basically beating US companies, using pretty shoddy justification. So I would not rule out no one can challenge China, China is not the US. And even if it were Vietnam still beat their ass.
- cdmckay 7y ago
  Define “killed”. Huawei seems to be around last I checked.
  - devoply 7y ago
    Cut off from global markets. Cut off from probably most international suppliers. Cut off from all American patents. In its current state I doubt it will last very long as anything outside of China.
not_a_moth 7y ago
Well, HK is the most powerful financial center in Asia, not to mention a recent UK colony. It has far more Western leverage against China than say Taiwan.
dharmab 7y ago
They're actually succeeding- the government has backed down and apologized. The protests are pushing on for the resignation of the Chief Executive. Keep in mind this new extradition law also applied to foreign, non-HK/CN citizens visiting Hong Kong legally. Companies operating in HK _really_ did not want this bill, either,
- JMTQp8lwXL 7y ago
  I don't think we can conclude the long-term intent from backing down now. It could be simply kicking the can down the road. Beijing might just be waiting to try this later. The longer they wait, though, the riskier it gets to push the Socialist system onto Hong Kong. It seems more and more citizens are willing to defend Democracy than has been the case in Hong Kong's past. If the numbers are correct, this is more protestors than the Umbrella movement.
sexy_seedbox 7y ago
Hong Kong is still a finance heavyweight and still a gateway to China for many. Many Chinese companies in the past few years have and prefer to list their IPOs in HK rather than elsewhere because of HK's stable economy and I'm sure they would like to keep it that way (for now).

devoply 7y ago

US killed Huawei overnight, a world-class competitor which was basically beating US companies, using pretty shoddy justification. So I would not rule out no one can challenge China, China is not the US. And even if it were Vietnam still beat their ass.

cdmckay 7y ago
Define “killed”. Huawei seems to be around last I checked.
- devoply 7y ago
  Cut off from global markets. Cut off from probably most international suppliers. Cut off from all American patents. In its current state I doubt it will last very long as anything outside of China.

not_a_moth 7y ago

Well, HK is the most powerful financial center in Asia, not to mention a recent UK colony. It has far more Western leverage against China than say Taiwan.

dharmab 7y ago

They're actually succeeding- the government has backed down and apologized. The protests are pushing on for the resignation of the Chief Executive. Keep in mind this new extradition law also applied to foreign, non-HK/CN citizens visiting Hong Kong legally. Companies operating in HK _really_ did not want this bill, either,

JMTQp8lwXL 7y ago
I don't think we can conclude the long-term intent from backing down now. It could be simply kicking the can down the road. Beijing might just be waiting to try this later. The longer they wait, though, the riskier it gets to push the Socialist system onto Hong Kong. It seems more and more citizens are willing to defend Democracy than has been the case in Hong Kong's past. If the numbers are correct, this is more protestors than the Umbrella movement.

sexy_seedbox 7y ago

Hong Kong is still a finance heavyweight and still a gateway to China for many. Many Chinese companies in the past few years have and prefer to list their IPOs in HK rather than elsewhere because of HK's stable economy and I'm sure they would like to keep it that way (for now).