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I know this is a troll but: VCs have more funding available and are less risk-adverse, employees are easier to underpay/overwork (rip unions), corporate oversig

I know this is a troll but: VCs have more funding available and are less risk-adverse, employees are easier to underpay/overwork (rip unions), corporate oversight is less burdensome. This is the first job outside of the public sector that I’ve seen union materials prominently displayed on internal notice boards.

chrisseaton 7y ago
> I know this is a troll I can't understand how my point could be considered trolling. People seem to vote with their feet - they often choose US employers over European ones. The employers with the best conditions and pay in Europe are often US employers! For example local offices of Google.
- komali2 7y ago
  > The employers with the best conditions and pay in Europe are often US employers! Could this be because theyre being subsidized by an exploited American workforce? They're certainly profiting off weaker data regulation in the USA. Anyway, it seems trolly because it'd be like arguing "well the Egyptians have pyramids, and the non slave holding civilizations don't. Clearly they're doing SOMETHING right." Lots of people are leaving America, as well. Most can't afford to. The ones that can afford international lifestyles aren't really burdened as much by the negative aspects of America - they can get good insurance through a company that can afford it, they can afford to Lyft everywhere to make up for the lack of public transit, they can flex during salary negotiations for longer PTO. How many impoverished in Europe are "voting with their feet" to come to the first world country with the worst safety net out of all of them? Imagine the innovations that could come from America if it actually invested in its population. The idea that Europe is not innovative is a bit of a myth anyway. This is a fun read: https://ec.europa.eu/growth/industry/innovation/facts-figures/scoreboards_en https://ec.europa.eu/growth/industry/innovation/facts-figure... Btw, Sweden is measured as the "most innovative" country in the EU. So in a system of first world countries with socialized education and healthcare, and despite detractors on this forum of their allegedly "high cost of living" they're still standing out amongst their peers.
- rendall 7y ago
  I left the US to Finland for one third the salary and twice the taxes, but I gained a priceless work-life balance. My work colleagues are relentlessly competent, and part of that competence is valuing family and leisure.

chrisseaton 7y ago

> I know this is a troll I can't understand how my point could be considered trolling. People seem to vote with their feet - they often choose US employers over European ones. The employers with the best conditions and pay in Europe are often US employers! For example local offices of Google.

komali2 7y ago
> The employers with the best conditions and pay in Europe are often US employers! Could this be because theyre being subsidized by an exploited American workforce? They're certainly profiting off weaker data regulation in the USA. Anyway, it seems trolly because it'd be like arguing "well the Egyptians have pyramids, and the non slave holding civilizations don't. Clearly they're doing SOMETHING right." Lots of people are leaving America, as well. Most can't afford to. The ones that can afford international lifestyles aren't really burdened as much by the negative aspects of America - they can get good insurance through a company that can afford it, they can afford to Lyft everywhere to make up for the lack of public transit, they can flex during salary negotiations for longer PTO. How many impoverished in Europe are "voting with their feet" to come to the first world country with the worst safety net out of all of them? Imagine the innovations that could come from America if it actually invested in its population. The idea that Europe is not innovative is a bit of a myth anyway. This is a fun read: https://ec.europa.eu/growth/industry/innovation/facts-figures/scoreboards_en https://ec.europa.eu/growth/industry/innovation/facts-figure... Btw, Sweden is measured as the "most innovative" country in the EU. So in a system of first world countries with socialized education and healthcare, and despite detractors on this forum of their allegedly "high cost of living" they're still standing out amongst their peers.
rendall 7y ago
I left the US to Finland for one third the salary and twice the taxes, but I gained a priceless work-life balance. My work colleagues are relentlessly competent, and part of that competence is valuing family and leisure.