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Just so you know usa is ranked 10 in GDP. I don't think being the richest means much, but USA is not the richest https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countri

by boudin 7y ago

Just so you know usa is ranked 10 in GDP. I don't think being the richest means much, but USA is not the richest https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_GDP_(PPP)_per_capita https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_GDP_(PP...

fastball 7y ago
Pretty disingenuous to say GDP when you mean GDP PPP. The US does have the highest GDP (by a large margin).
- boudin 7y ago
  Fine by me, but it's meaningless since it's not adjusted. And anyway, still not the case https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_GDP_(nominal)_per_capita https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_GDP_(no...
  - fastball 7y ago
    You're really not very good at this. GDP per capita is not the same as GDP. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_GDP_(nominal) https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_GDP_(nomi...
    - boudin 7y ago
      To remind you, it's a post about working in another country, the GDP makes even less sense in this context if you don't put it per capita.
      - fastball 7y ago
        You were presumably responding to "America is the most rich and powerful country in the world", since that is the only relevant portion of the comment you replied to where interjecting a comment about GDP would make any sense at all. The US, as a nation, has the highest GDP, and therefore is the wealthiest nation in the world. The individual wealth of Americans is lower than some other countries (but not many), but that is hardly relevant in a discussion about the wealthiest country. If OC had said "Americans are the richest people in the world", you would be right. But OC did not, and being deliberately obtuse does not change that.
        boudin 7y ago
        I'm gonna stop answering because you're being misleading on purpose, but you can't say the USA is the richest because people in other countries are laid back worker when the GDP per capita is lower than the other mentionned country. It means that there's just more people but that they are quite "less productive" (i personnaly think that's it's a stupid way to judge people productivity though, i just responded to this comment because the author belief was wrong)
        fastball 7y ago
        I'm being deliberately misleading? Have you ever looked in a mirror? This conversation started because YOU referred to GDP PPP as just "GDP". There is a reason that "List of Countries by GDP (nominal)" and "List of Countries by GDP (PPP) per capita" are separate articles on Wikipedia. Hint: it's because the two metrics are different, and conflating them is misleading, whether deliberate or not. You arbitrarily deciding that the only way to measure the wealth of a nation is with GDP per capita doesn't mean you can call anyone who doesn't use that same metric (and instead uses a more common one) wrong. Again, we are talking about the wealth of a nation as a whole. Not the wealth of individual Americans.
        dang 7y ago
        > you're being misleading on purpose I realize you were provoked, but please don't break the site guidelines even when another account is doing so. That's the only way to prevent a downward spiral. https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html
    - dang 7y ago
      You repeatedly crossed into personal attack and incivility in this thread. We ban accounts that do that. Would you mind reviewing the site guidelines and using HN as intended in the future? We'd appreciate it greatly. https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html
AlgorithmicTime 7y ago
All the countries in those lists with higher per capita GDPs are a) oil exporting sheikdoms, b) tiny little financial havens, or c) tiny city states. None are continent spanning superpowers.
burfog 7y ago
Nearly all of the ones ahead of the USA are clearly city-states or oil/gas sources. Both are unreasonable comparisons. The city-states could properly be compared with Manhattan. The oil/gas sources may have a high GDP, but the typical people tend to be in poverty. Ireland and Switzerland are the only clear exceptions, and both are rather small countries. Norway is an oil/gas source, but might also be an exception because things are run a bit better than they are in the typical oil/gas source.

by boudin 7y ago

fastball 7y ago

Pretty disingenuous to say GDP when you mean GDP PPP. The US does have the highest GDP (by a large margin).

boudin 7y ago
Fine by me, but it's meaningless since it's not adjusted. And anyway, still not the case https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_GDP_(nominal)_per_capita https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_GDP_(no...
- fastball 7y ago
  You're really not very good at this. GDP per capita is not the same as GDP. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_GDP_(nominal) https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_GDP_(nomi...
  - boudin 7y ago
    To remind you, it's a post about working in another country, the GDP makes even less sense in this context if you don't put it per capita.
    - fastball 7y ago
      You were presumably responding to "America is the most rich and powerful country in the world", since that is the only relevant portion of the comment you replied to where interjecting a comment about GDP would make any sense at all. The US, as a nation, has the highest GDP, and therefore is the wealthiest nation in the world. The individual wealth of Americans is lower than some other countries (but not many), but that is hardly relevant in a discussion about the wealthiest country. If OC had said "Americans are the richest people in the world", you would be right. But OC did not, and being deliberately obtuse does not change that.
      - boudin 7y ago
        I'm gonna stop answering because you're being misleading on purpose, but you can't say the USA is the richest because people in other countries are laid back worker when the GDP per capita is lower than the other mentionned country. It means that there's just more people but that they are quite "less productive" (i personnaly think that's it's a stupid way to judge people productivity though, i just responded to this comment because the author belief was wrong)
        fastball 7y ago
        I'm being deliberately misleading? Have you ever looked in a mirror? This conversation started because YOU referred to GDP PPP as just "GDP". There is a reason that "List of Countries by GDP (nominal)" and "List of Countries by GDP (PPP) per capita" are separate articles on Wikipedia. Hint: it's because the two metrics are different, and conflating them is misleading, whether deliberate or not. You arbitrarily deciding that the only way to measure the wealth of a nation is with GDP per capita doesn't mean you can call anyone who doesn't use that same metric (and instead uses a more common one) wrong. Again, we are talking about the wealth of a nation as a whole. Not the wealth of individual Americans.
        dang 7y ago
        > you're being misleading on purpose I realize you were provoked, but please don't break the site guidelines even when another account is doing so. That's the only way to prevent a downward spiral. https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html
  - dang 7y ago
    You repeatedly crossed into personal attack and incivility in this thread. We ban accounts that do that. Would you mind reviewing the site guidelines and using HN as intended in the future? We'd appreciate it greatly. https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html

AlgorithmicTime 7y ago

All the countries in those lists with higher per capita GDPs are a) oil exporting sheikdoms, b) tiny little financial havens, or c) tiny city states. None are continent spanning superpowers.

burfog 7y ago

Nearly all of the ones ahead of the USA are clearly city-states or oil/gas sources. Both are unreasonable comparisons. The city-states could properly be compared with Manhattan. The oil/gas sources may have a high GDP, but the typical people tend to be in poverty. Ireland and Switzerland are the only clear exceptions, and both are rather small countries. Norway is an oil/gas source, but might also be an exception because things are run a bit better than they are in the typical oil/gas source.