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This isn’t true. Not all calories are the same. Some spike insulin, the hormone that is responsible for storing fat, much more than others. Also if I eat 1800 c
by lath 7y ago
This isn’t true. Not all calories are the same. Some spike insulin, the hormone that is responsible for storing fat, much more than others. Also if I eat 1800 carb heavy calories every day, I’m extremely hungry all the time. If I eat 1800 fat heavy calories every day, I feel satiated. It’s thanks to ketosis and being fat adapted.
Side note, I lost 80 pounds on a low fat diet, gained it back, then lost 80 pounds on a low carb diet so I know from personal experience.
- Latty 7y agoI’m not sure how what you say makes the parent’s post untrue. I don't know the details of insulin and fat storage, but at the end of the day if you are at a calorie deficit, you will lose weight—that’s physics. Your body can’t magic fat out of nowhere. Your point appears to be that some things are easier to cut out of your diet than others… which was very much part of what the parent said—they point out that calorie tracking is the best way to work out what foods are the ones that work best for you. The point is not that all calories are equal from the perspective of sating hunger, but that they are equal in terms of energy input. Knowing that raw number for everything is the best way to understand what is providing you good “bang for your buck”. None of this contradicts what you say, to be clear—it supports it, which is why I find it odd your post starts with “this isn’t true”.
- lath 7y agoWhat I’m saying is untrue is the notion that weight loss is as simple as a calorie deficit and tracking calories. It’s not that simple because some calories make staying in a deficit much harder. The point is that saying that fat loss is as simple as calories in, calories out is unhelpful and not really true. Also the whole point of losing weight is to be healthy. If you lost weight eating twinkies you might be skinnier but you are going to have a whole host of other health problems like high blood pressure, cancer, and heart disease.
- Latty 7y agoRather than conflating it all in a way that leads to misunderstanding, why not say "sure, calories in - calories out defines weight loss, but you need more than that to be healthy". The point stands that tracking calories gives you a defined goal. It's not the only goal for health, but that doesn't make it useless. The parent post you objected to was not claiming that what you ate didn't matter at all. You are 100% right that healthy, sustainable weight loss isn't all calories, but weight loss itself absolutely is - and breaking the problem down into parts so people understand how to achieve that weight loss rather than having this arbitrary "healthy eating" idea that is much harder to track is a good thing. No one is advocating for it in isolation.
- thebigspacefuck 7y agoPenn's diet started out eating only potatoes for two weeks. There was a nutrition professor that ate only Twinkies and lost 27 lbs. There might be a difference in how you feel, but you can lose weight eating anything.
- jdm2212 7y agoYou can lose weight eating any given thing (if energy in is less than energy out, something's gotta give), but it's not psychologically sustainable to keep weight off by eating just Twinkies. For most people, the eventual goal of losing weight is to keep it off, so the trivial truth that starving yourself inevitably leads to weight loss is unhelpful.
- thebigspacefuck 7y agoFind out what works for you. Calorie counting is a great tool for figuring that out. Jumping on a trend diet and having it fail is a waste of your time, other than learning it didn't work.
- AnIdiotOnTheNet 7y agoI know from losing about twice that and keeping it off for a about 5 years now that calorie counting does, in fact, work.